Talk:Jim Thome

Kingman story
Here it is in its entirety for those interested. Not all of it is wikipedia worthy, I just mentioned it because he really is/was a big Cubs fan (even if he's on the Sox, which some of his close relatives prefer) and Kingman in a lesser way was a model for his current style of play - i.e. hitting long, TOWERING home runs.

"As a kid, Thome was a Cubs fanatic. His hero was Dave Kingman. And when Thome was 8, he once jumped onto the field and into the dugout before a game at Wrigley to try to get Kingman's autograph. Cubs catcher Barry Foote grabbed Thome and got him back to his father in the stands.

"Kingman used to have a boat, and we'd come up Lake Shore Drive and Jim would be saying, 'Dad, you think that's the boat? That one?''' Chuck Thome said. "That day, Jim was standing along the fence, and Kingman came out and walked 15 feet from Jim. Jim's screaming, waving the ball. Kingman looked like he was going to take a step toward Jim, then thought, 'Aw, hell with it,' and walked away. Jim came back and said, 'I'm still going to get his autograph.'

"All of a sudden, he's gone. Foote says, 'Does he really want Kingman's autograph?' I said, 'Oh, yeah.' He said, 'I'll go down there and come back with a ball with his name, but it won't be his signature. He's such a [bleep] that no one talks to him down there.''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.105.110.246 (talk • contribs) 31 July 2006

Thank-you!Sea Wolf 09:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

reverting speculation
Why should it be reverted, it should be known on this page that Thome could return to the White Sox.
 * Because we only put facts on this page, not speculation. He could return to the White Sox, he could also join any number of other teams. When he signs we put it on... speculation is not added. Spanneraol (talk) 00:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info.

MLB Career== is wierd ==

I just removed this piece of vandalism from the article. Heaven knows who put it there... Belugaboy535136 contribs 21:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Thome is a member of the Twins
Jim Thome is a member of the Minnesota Twins, he is not a Free Agent. He agreed to terms on 1/26/10 (http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100126&content_id=7972214&vkey=news_min&fext=.jsp&c_id=min), he was in the Twins Cities and attended the weekend-long fan celebration TwinsFest the weekend of January 30th (http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/83166412.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUqCP:iUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr), and the Twins have made room for him on the roster (and lost a player on the waiver wire) (http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/83312987.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUqCP:iUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr). Please stop editing this article back to "Free Agent" Rapier1 (talk) 19:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

quoted stats
shouldn't the number of strikeouts be one of the quoted stats if he is number two overall? If so, we have to remove one of the others. Really, each is supposed to be notable, and they are supposed to be ranked in terms of notability. I'd say the number of home runs is definitely the most notable. see 018 (talk) 22:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

College
Did Jim Thome go to college and what college was it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.100.154.19 (talk) 20:54, 25 September 2010 (UTC) Illinois Central (S.K. 03:05, 26 August 2011 (UTC))

Thome's first home run
It was hit off Steve Farr not Lee Guetterman.

ptbnl
this player for the 2011 deal must have been named by now, does anybody know who it was? 018 (talk) 02:18, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Comments
Looking at the article, I see:
 * the lead does not summarize the article well
 * The lead does not summarize the article well (still). Leads should summarize as well as entice the reader a bit. You might also be able to grab a quote or two. Zepppep (talk) 03:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I modified a few things. Go   Phightins  !  21:58, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

✅ Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC) ✅ Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC) up to 46, but will still work on cleaning them up Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC) ✅ Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC) ✅ Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC) ✅--removed Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * subject should be referred to last name after the first mention, not "Jim Thome"
 * there are some single sentences that stand out, esp in the Twins and 2nd CLE stint sections
 * the references need quite a bit of work; also, 39 refs seems a bit light for an article of this length; I would look to add more to the article, which will also increase the no. of refs (see below)
 * "originally drafted", why is someone suggesting he might've been drafted twice?
 * "9th", "4th" should be changed to "ninth", "fourth"
 * the Chipper Jones reference seems a bit trivial; it sticks out like a sore thumb being the second sentence of the body
 * The 6–5 game w/ Santana homer seems a bit trivial. Zepppep (talk) 03:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that it kind of provides closure to how his recognition night went... Go  Phightins  !  21:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Additionally, how did it feel for Thome to go back to the club where he got his big league start and spent so many years with? Zepppep (talk) 03:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Go  Phightins  !  21:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC) Go  Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC) Go  Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Ryan Howard isn't linked on first instance; meanwhile, A-Rod is linkable multiple times
 * "struck out 30.0% of the time" is this 30% of ABs or PAs?
 * the first Indians section needs expanded. The organization had some of their better years and 2 WS appearances, yet I don't see that anywhere in the section
 * Did Thome play a role at all in the Indians' WS appearances? Essentially there is a game debut, position change, and a few hitting stats; this is what exists for more than 10 seasons of play? Zepppep (talk) 03:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I am working on adding to that section. Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ I found an old baseball encyclopedia that I just used to update it. Go   Phightins  !  02:07, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

✅ changed Go   Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC) Go  Phightins  !  20:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * "wildly beloved" seems a bit peacocky; just have the results of the poll speak for itself
 * in almost all circumstances, pic captions should not include final punctuation
 * Tend to these and I'll come back for another quick look. Zepppep (talk) 10:22, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * A reader is likely going to wonder why he spent so little time with LAD. Zepppep (talk) 03:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * "Injuries caught up..." how is this being ascertained? Did he miss any games? Was his role limited? A decline in stats isn't always to an injury, so specifics should be mentioned to quantify this. Also, the current wording sounds a bit vague (injuries indicates more than one, yet only elbow surgery is later mentioned) and slightly POV/non-encyclopedic in tone. Zepppep (talk) 03:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Gotta agree with Zepppep here. Half of Thome's career was his first stint with the Indians, yet that's a very small part of his article; heck the Twins section is longer. Wizardman 02:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Pre-FAC review
As requested, here are some thoughts about the article. Generally, it is much improved, and I now get much more of a "flavour" of him. I did some light copy-editing of one section, and have some suggestions/nit-picks for the first half of the article. Feel free to argue! The lead looks to me like it needs a bit of work still, but once past that the rest of the article seems to have come together quite nicely. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:55, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Lead:
 * I’m not a fan of the long list of teams, then the long list of awards in the first paragraph. Do we need to list them all? It doesn’t make a particularly attractive opening paragraph for the article, and might scare off a few readers/reviewers before they even start.
 * - reworded such to mention major teams


 * ”He was primarily a first baseman but also spent significant time as a third baseman”: The repetition of baseman is a bit clunky. I’m not a baseball person at all, but would changing one of them to something like “at first/third base” work? It would add the needed variety.
 * Reworded.


 * The lead should summarise the article, but there is not really a biography in the lead. It lists his achievements, and briefly mentions his teams, and then goes into “technique”. But what about a sentence on where he came from, how he reached the major leagues, etc. As it stands, I have reservations (which I think I’ve expressed before) that this means WP:LEAD.
 * Tweaked rather significantly.

"Throughout his career, Thome's strength was power hitting. In six different seasons, he hit more than 40 home runs; his career on-base plus slugging (OPS) of .956 is 19th all-time. Later in his career, repeated back injuries kept him from playing the field regularly. He primarily was a designated hitter. Thome was known for his batting stance, in which he held the bat out with his right hand and pointed it at right field before the pitcher was ready to throw, which he first saw in The Natural;[2] and his constant positive attitude.[3][4]"
 * Given that his career is now over, why are we saying “has been” and “has hit”? The tenses seem jumbled. I would suggest some rewording of the last paragraph like so:
 * Sort of did what you suggested - check out please.


 * ”Playing the field” seems a bit jargony.
 * Fixed.


 * ”Thorne was known for his batting stance”: By who? And this sounds a little like that is all he was known for.
 * Fans and writers and players alike; removed the passive voice to alleviate confusion and ambiguity until clarified later in body.

Early life:
 * ”he achieved all-state honors”: Can we link this? It is pretty meaningless outside North America, I think.
 * Best link I could find was All-America ... perhaps a footnote would work here?


 * ”his relatively small stature”: Why would this affect his appeal to scouts? If you don’t want to interrupt the flow here, we could add a note.
 * Clarified with average weight of MLB players in 1993 - that stat, however, does not really do his stature justice, as he is a power hitter; power hitters, would have a higher average weight in most cases, but that stat is the best I could find.

Cleveland Indians
 * ”particularly on how he used his hips in his swing”: Can we reword this to avoid his…his?
 * reworded


 * As we mention, and reference, Roy Hobbs here, why do we need a reference in the lead?
 * removed (that and other references in lead, as all are later covered)


 * ”Thome hit .340”: We earlier linked batting average, but this may come as a puzzle to some readers here. Perhaps reword to “hit a batting average of .340” (which makes the use of hit later on (e.g. hit .266) or expand it to “hit .340 (i. e. he had a batting average of .340)”.
 * picked option number two


 * ”In the game he had two hits in four at-bats (2-for-4) and recorded his first hit.”: Would it be better to swap these events around? “In the game, he recorded his first hit, and had two hits in four at-bats (2-for-4).”
 * reworded close to what you suggested


 * ”This performance earned him a late season call up in which he hit .266 with 7 home runs and 22 RBIs in 47 games”: Could we make explicit who called him up? I’m assuming he was recalled to the Cleveland team, but it is potentially ambiguous.
 * clarified


 * ”In the 1994 offseason, Cleveland made several offseason acquisitions”: Can we avoid offseason…offseason?
 * removed second one


 * ”with a losing record”: might not be obvious. Is there a link?
 * linked to Glossary_of_baseball_terms


 * ”Originally a third baseman, the Indians moved Thome to first base in 1997 “: The two parts of this sentence are not related. As written, it looks like the Indians were a third baseman. We need to make the subject the same before and after the comma.
 * modified.

I’m about half-way down the Cleveland section; it may be helpful to the reader to break up this (fairly huge) section using more sub-headings. Otherwise, it’s quite an intimidating block of text. More to come. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:55, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * General point: Watch out for overuse of “Thome”. His name crops up quite a lot in close proximity; check if some of these could be changed to “he” or similar, where it is obvious who you are talking about. This is an easy trap to fall into, and I have done so many times myself!
 * Some replies above. Thanks for doing this!  Go  Phightins  !  22:58, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * We may have gone slightly too far the other way now, with some very short sections. Sarastro1 (talk) 22:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

A modest decline:
 * "while helping the Indians snap the Yankees' 10-game winning streak": Snap is jargon.
 * I don't think the Burnitz quote needs a quote box; it could just go in the text as it's quite short.
 * "(Cleveland would go on to defeat the Boston Red Sox by a score of 3–2)": This is confusing. Why is it in parentheses? And was that the score in the game or the series? It is presumably the former as the next sentence states that Cleveland lost.
 * I'm also not too keen on the interchanging between Cleveland and Indians. As someone unfamiliar with baseball teams, it is a little confusing, but I also wonder how encyclopaedic it is to switch like this? I'd prefer "Cleveland" but I think we should settle on one or the other.
 * "Thome's statistics declined once again in 2000": Statistics can't decline. His performance can decline, or his average can go down, but statistics don't do much by themselves!
 * "This marked the seventh consecutive season in which Thome hit 20 or more home runs.": What "marked"? I think we can just say "This was..."
 * Done to this point.


 * "On September 29, while in the midst of a tight race for the wild card spot, Thome led the Indians to an 8–4 victory against the Toronto Blue Jays by hitting a two-run home run. After the game, Thome was quoted as saying, "This team has battled all year, so this was nothing new. Here we are, and we're here tomorrow to play another day."": I'm all for "flavour", but I'm struggling to see how notable this is, or what it adds to the story.
 * The lead asserts that he had a constant positive attitude, and the personality section indicates that as well as his drive to succeed (another quote later also notes that). I think that this quote provides an example of this – the team was not having a great season, nor was Thome, but he stayed positive, and after the game, uttered the aforementioned quote that implies that the team will continue to work hard, and offers a positive outlook, thus exemplifying the recurring personality characteristics throughout the article.


 * "powered the Indians to another division title": journalese.
 * Generally, I would agree, but seeing as home runs and RBIs are "power numbers", quite literally, the pair powered the team ...

Cleveland legacy and departure
 * The second sentence here is rather long and convoluted.
 * "A Plain Dealer fan poll in 2003 named Thome the most popular athlete in Cleveland sports history.": Given that he has just left the team at this point, this comment seems misplaced.
 * In passing, the article is just beginning to get a bit stats-heavy and choppy at this point. If we could smooth it a bit, that would be good, as it reads fine up until here.
 * Fixed the first two, moving the poll to the end of the personality section, as I am not sure where else to put it; it is kind of too early to have a "legacy" section
 * I know it is stats heavy towards the end, but particularly for sections pertaining to teams of whom he was a member for only a year, not many feature stories from which I can extrapolate qualitative information exist. I will do what I can.

Philadelphia Phillies
 * "he totaled only a .207 batting average": You don't total an average.
 * Fixed.


 * "His performance was so sporadic": And a performance can't be sporadic. His effectiveness could be sporadic, or his performance could be ineffective, but this doesn't quite work as written.
 * Fixed.


 * "and with news that his father's condition was getting worse": This is the first we hear of his father's condition. What was the matter?
 * As it turns out, it was his mother that had cancer, not his father, as I remembered; I couldn't find that his father had anything other than loneliness after his wife of so many years died, so I implied that in the updated text. Thanks!  Go  Phightins  !  04:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm down to the end of the Phillies section. More to come, but generally this second part is a slightly more choppy read and does not seem as polished as the first part. Sarastro1 (talk) 22:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Break
Down to the end of the Twins section now.
 * ”Thome became the White Sox's regular designated hitter in April 2006 and flourished in his first season in Chicago. He set the team record for most home runs in the month of April (10), beating Frank Thomas's previous record by one.”: What is the reference for this? I can find nothing in ref 44, the next one given, to support this.
 * I looked at his profile on JockBio, which I believe is more reliable than it sounds, and it has the information, but will someone at FAC oppose based off that?
 * I'm not sure, but that piece of information is not cited to JockBio, or to anything else except ref 44. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:22, 21 January 2014 (UTC)


 * ”He set the team record for most home runs in the month of April (10), beating Frank Thomas's previous record by one.”” Perhaps “a/the new team record”?
 * ”The 500 home run club gained a new member on September 16 “: To me, this is journalese and not quite encyclopaedic enough.
 * The Wikipedia article is called the 500 home run club; I tweaked to "formalize it slightly"
 * That's fine, it wasn't the club part that wasn't encyclopaedic. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:22, 21 January 2014 (UTC)


 * ”a walk-off in the bottom of the ninth inning with one man on base, which gave the White Sox a 9–7 victory.”: Is this significant in the context of his career? Other than being his 500th, I’m not sure how important the rest is.
 * Tweaked.


 * ”which occurred on Thome bobblehead giveaway day”: Err… what? You’ve lost me here!!!
 * Clarified and linked


 * Again, it may be unavoidable, but I get the impression here of “On blah day, he did X. On blah blah day he did Y” which comes across as a bit jumpy and repetitive.
 * ”traded Thome to the Los Angeles Dodgers with cash for minor league infielder Justin Fuller”: Not sure what “with cash” means in this context (there is a similar comment earlier, which I missed). I’m sure it is baseball-speak, but could be make it more formal? I have images in my head of a man handing over a briefcase-full of dollar notes!
 * You're right - he was traded along with a sum of money, generally undisclosed, for that other player. I tweaked a little bit.


 * ”Thome waived his no-trade clause in an attempt to win a World Series”: This part loses me.
 * Tried to clarify.


 * ”When the Twins opened Target Field on April 12, 2010, Thome, for the third time in his career, was a part of an organization that celebrated the grand opening of a new home stadium.”: Not sure about this. Why not make it simpler: “The Twins opened Target Field, their new home stadium, on April 12, 2010. This was the third time in Thome’s career that his team had moved ground/opened a new stadium [but this is perhaps repetitious]…” Something like that?
 * Changed to read roughly how you said it.


 * ”On July 3, Thome hit his 573rd and 574th home runs. In doing so he passed fellow Twin Harmon Killebrew for tenth on the all-time home run leaders list.”: Do we need the numbers? It is getting a bit list-y now, giving the numbers of his home runs. Would it work to just have: “On July 3, Thome’s two home runs took him past fellow Twin Harmon Killebrew for tenth on the all-time home run leaders list”? And the quote afterwards from Killebrew seems a bit too much. Perhaps it’s a bigger deal than it seems from reading this…
 * Summarized Killebrew's quote.


 * ”It was the 12th walk-off home run of his career, tying him for first all time (with Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, Stan Musial, Frank Robinson, and Babe Ruth).”: Is this stat a big deal?
 * Kind of - plays to the fact he is a "clutch hitter", though I did remove the list of players.


 * ”On September 4, Thome again hit two home runs in a single game to tie and then pass Mark McGwire for the ninth spot on the career home run list. Thome passed Robinson on September 11, when he hit his 587th career home run in the top of the 12th inning in Cleveland.”: And again, we seem to be into “tick off the records…”
 * I understand - the point of all of that was to indicate he was slowly ascending the list of home run leaders.


 * At this stage, I think we have too many “xxxth home runs”, and the impact is a little diluted. Perhaps it’s because I don’t have the baseball background, but it just seems too much and a bit repetitive. Feel free to argue! But if we are to keep all this, I think the non-baseball reader needs more of a sense of “Yes, this IS a big deal.” Sarastro1 (talk) 19:39, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I tried to add sub-headers to summarize - do they help, or should I remove them?

Next batch: Down to end of playing career now. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * In “Second stint with Cleveland”, we have too many Thomes! Every sentence seems to contain his name. Can we replace some with “he”?
 * ”Thome was traded to Cleveland after waiving his no-trade clause”: ????
 * ”Through 2011, Thome was second among all active major leaguers in home runs”: Active major leaguers? How can one be an inactive major leaguer and score home runs? I’m assuming this is talking about career figures, but that isn’t clear. Why no mention of his performance that season? And why the sudden switch to present tense in the sentence following this one?
 * ”despite not having played the field since 2007”: In the UK, played the field has an entirely different meaning! Can we formalise this to “played as a fielder” or similar?
 * ”Thome experienced stiffness in his lower back in a game against the Chicago Cubs on April 28.[78] In May, he was placed on the 15-day disabled list with a strained lower back.”: We seem to be going back to choppy listiness here. It reads like a list of “on this random day, this happened”.
 * For the record, after a few choppy sections, the paragraph “Baltimore Orioles (2012)” is pretty much spot-on for me.
 * I really don’t think that the one sentence content of “Post-playing career” justifies its own level 2 header.
 * Thanks . All of the aforementioned are handled ... I changed post-playing career to a level three, however, who wrote an FA about a current baseball player Mariano Rivera, and as such I pinged for assistance, changed it to a level two.  Go  Phightins  !  14:57, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Final comments: I don't entirely feel qualified to comment on the Player Profile section, as it is a little beyond me. That is not to say it is jargon; there are times when it is necessary to get a bit technical, and there is no other way. My only reservation for that section is there are a few too many sentences of the for "Despite X..." and "Though Y..." which can be a bit repetitive. And once more, I think we are using "Thome" too much when "he" could be used. It would be worth another sweep of the whole article for instances of this, as it can be easily missed. I don't think there is too much that would be a showstopper at FAC, but I think getting a few more copyeditors would be a good thing. Ideally, someone should look who is not particularly "baseball" or "sports". Sorry for the long list here, but I hope it has been of some assistance and I hope I've not been too vague! Sarastro1 (talk) 20:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for all of your comments, and I apologize for my delay in replying. They have been invaluable to the improvement of the article, and I will heed your advice and seek a few more copyedits prior to nominating it at FAC. Thank you again.  Go  Phightins  !  22:35, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

More pre-FAC comments

 * I made some adjustments in the lead, mostly related to linking and formatting. Please check that I didn't mess anything up, and forgive me if I repeat some of what Sarastro wrote; I haven't checked his comments that closely.
 * Early life: "he sneaked into the Cubs' clubhouse in an attempt to get Kingman's autograph. Though to his dismay he failed to do so, he got the autographs of several other players; because of his childhood difficulties in getting autographs, he now makes a point of signing autographs for fans." In general, there's a lot of repetition of "autographs" and "get/got" here; I know that the prose reviewers are not huge fans of too many "get/got" usages. Also, does the last part hold up now that he's retired?
 * Minor leagues: Do we explain RBIs anywhere before this area? If not, it's going to need the full term spelled out, with the abbreviation in parentheses.
 * Cleveland's core: After the long list of Cleveland acquisitions, I would have "join" instead of "work with", since the latter implies that they helped coach him.
 * A modest decline: "Cleveland subsequently lost the series to the Yankees." Those were the days. :-) Seriously, this could use a citation, since someone at FAC will probably complain about it.
 * Same goes for the 1999 Boston series.
 * The entire 2002 paragraph is uncited. Someone at FAC will probably oppose over this, so it must be addressed.
 * Cleveland legacy and departure: Should "turned down the Indians" be followed by "contract offer" or similar, to help the non-baseball fan understand the sentence better?
 * Post-playing career: Is there anything that can be added to beef up this one-sentence section? I can't recall too many articles that have gotten away with such a short section at FAC.
 * Player profile: Minor, but Lindy's Sports should be italicized as a print publication.
 * All caps in ref 25 should be removed. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 02:24, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. I will address these tomorrow or the next day; too tired now :-)  Go  Phightins  !  02:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * All done, I believe.  Go  Phightins  !  16:46, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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Good read

 * I just read the article and consider it a "Good read". As a critique I don't see the relevance of a need for the "List of Major League Baseball..." in the "See also" section.
 * Linking the "Career statistics and player information from" MLB, or ESPN, or Baseball-Reference, or Fangraphs, or Baseball-Reference (Minors), or Retrosheet, is just plain link farming possibly just to include editor's favorite becoming a dumping ground for links. I mean, how many sites do we need to link to providing player stats? Otr500 (talk) 11:58, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Birthplace
Not seeing any rationale for this edit - there's nothing at the linked page about not including country, and per MOS:INFOBOX it makes sense to provide this information at-a-glance. Not all readers are intimately familiar with US geography. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:06, 29 August 2020 (UTC)