Talk:Joachim Gans

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There can be no "linguistically wrong" spelling of a name from the 16th century. At that time, the spelling of a name (and of any word) was not as strictly regulated as it is today. Both Shakespeare and Goethe, e.g., spelt their own names in several different ways. Moreover, "Joachim" is Hebrew and in the Hebrew alphabet, there are no vowels. Therefore no one can tell the correct vowels between the "J", the "CH" and the "M". By the way: "Jochim" is the danish form of this name (Holstein, where the ancestral seat of my family is situated, belonged to Denmark, when my great-grandfather got this name from his father). Regards, Jochim Schiller 15:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Re-write
I'll be working on updating this page (style, writing, content), but others are invited to add to this. I stumbled across this page and found it interesting, so I'd like to find more sources that may help me improve it. Please let me know if there are sources out there that you may know about! BWH76 (talk) 14:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Bishop Curteys
There is misinformation about his trial - it states that Curteys approached Gans in 1589, though this link makes it pretty clear that Curteys died 7 years before that (in 1582). I left it in the entry as I'm not sure which part is incorrect - was it Curteys that accused Gans or is the error in the date of when this happened? BWH76 (talk) 15:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The date was definitely 1589. The problem is the words "Bishop of Chichester" and the link.  This Richard Curteys was apparently not the Bishop of Chichester, but a different Richard Curteys who was a Protestant Minister who lived in Bristol.


 * Other issues I noticed with this article:
 * The statement about Gans's moving to Bristol and teaching Hebrew needs a citation. I'm not conviced it's true.


 * Grenville was the captain of the fleet that took them there, but he just dropped them off. Rafe (Ralph) Lane was the "founder" and head of the first Roanoke colony.  (Two common misconceptions you avoided: Raleigh did not go to Roanoke, and this was not the "Lost Colony of Roanoke," which came a year or two later.  Good job!)


 * "Rather than embarrass an associate of the Royal Mining Company" This was probably more the Privy Council than the Bristol town council.  The issue for the Bristol council was that, when Gans admitted to being a Jew, they couldn't try him for heresy, since he had never been a Christian.  He was merely an infidel.  But they didn't think he should be allowed to speak his "blasphemy" in public.  So they referred the case to a higher court.


 * Another person on the Privy Council who knew Ganse was William Cecil, Lord Burghley.


 * The person who has probably done the most research on Gans is Gary Carl Grassl. At a minimum, this web site should be consulted:
 * http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Joachim+Gans+of+Prague%3A+The+First+Jew+in+English+America.-a053233881


 * Prignillius (talk) 16:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)