Talk:Joel Palmer

Copyedit
My brain hurts, but hopefully my first pass of editing is helpful. I had one question. It says "Palmer succeeded, but the state legislature petitioned for his removal from office which became effective in 1857." I wanted to link "state legislature" to Oregon Legislative Assembly, but since Oregon didn't become a state until 1859, I wanted to check and see if it meant territorial legislature. I'm happy I got through this without the power going out... Katr67 06:14, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I wasn't sure about the state legislature either—meant to check that.  I mirrored what the reference said:  At worst, it needs changing to Territorial Assembly or whatever they called it.  — EncMstr 08:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

reference
EncMstr, are you sure that reference you removed is a duplicate? Even if it is, looks like the one you removed had more detailed bibliographic info, maybe that could be incorporated? -Pete 21:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think so: it looks like it's a reprint or excerpt of the journal cited (#7) as Joel Palmer, Palmer's Journal of Travels Over the Rocky Mountains, 1845–1846 (1847), Library of Congress catalog F592 .T54 vol. 30.  As the reference I removed gave the author as Joel Palmer, I expect there is no additional commentary or explanation.  —EncMstr 21:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

GAN on hold

 * Ensure all free images are on Commons
 * Argh! I tried to use the Commons helper, which I haven't used before. But, it seems to have kind of screwed up the version at Commons -- and it didn't get rid of the version on WP, so that one's still the one that gets linked to. Any ideas what I should do? -Pete (talk) 00:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems you did fine - the image on En needs to be deleted now. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 00:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ (deleted en.wikipedia.org copy) —EncMstr 00:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Is the one ref in the lead necessary? Generally you should cite everything, or nothing, and it's not really citing something very contentious.
 * ✅ -- removed it, I agree. -Pete (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "his parents indentured Palmer" - "Palmer" --> "him" to prevent confusion
 * ✅ -Pete (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * In the Oregon pioneer, refer to him as "Palmer" sometimes to break the "he did this, he did that" monotony
 * ✅ -- I used the name "Palmer" at the first occurrence in each para. -Pete (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think the Isaac Stevens image is really necessary
 * I agree, but will wait to see if AM or somebody else has a good reason. -Pete (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ It's not necessary, but its is appropriate to the topic. It was only included because I have had several GA reviewers with the mistaken view that GA criteria require pictures, and often as many as possible. It has been removed. Aboutmovies (talk) 03:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I don't share that view! dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 03:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think the external link is really necessary, either
 * Is "necessary" the right standard? It's an interesting web page, directly related to this article. I'd rather see it stay. -Pete (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Necessary is not the right standard. The only GA criteria close would be compliance with the MOS, and the link clearly passes WP:EL which though not part of the MOS is a style guideline. It provides the reader additional information that may at some point be worked into the article, but it also has a lot of links to the treaties and those would likely not be integrated. It really should stay. Aboutmovies (talk) 03:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Leave a note on my talk page when done. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 23:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: I've made a few unrelated changes, too. I think they're improvements, but if anyone disagrees, feel free to revert to get to GA. -Pete (talk) 00:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Passed. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 03:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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