Talk:John Boy and Billy

Page mentioned on the Big Show, 11/18/06
Comments were made regarding the accuracy (or lack thereof) on this page and Billy noted that he would correct himself. I'm not sure if he meant it, but this page does need some editing - most notably (from glancging) on Marci's portion.

Page mentioned on The Big Show, 1/27/06!
John Boy and Billy mentioned this page on The Big Show on 1/27/06, with Tim Wilson as the guest! Cool! Just to let visitors to the page know, JB&B don't actually maintain this page; it's edited by fans of The Big Show. We've seen a lot of edits to the page today (many of them possibly done by the cast and crew themselves). :) KansaiKitsune 22:23, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Page mentioned on The Big Show, 6/2/06!
JB&B read large sections of this page on air on 6/2/06, covering in particular the information on Marty (Smarty Marty, the One Man Party)

Merge
The individual crew articles are not notable in their own right, and contain hardly any notable information. They should be merged into the main article, or at the very least, moved into subpages of the main article. They don't merit articles of their own. Waggers 15:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Characters
The (currently) seperate "Characters" article duplicates much of the information already here in the main article. As it stands, the Characters sections is already excessively long. We don't need a list of every character that has ever appeared, but just the most notable ones, if that. Waggers 10:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Strongly disagree that the character list belongs here. It's long and would be best served in a separate article. I'm bolding removing that section from this article.  Feel free to revert me. NickelShoe 18:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that moving the list here would make this article too long. My concern is that the character list is not noteworthy enough to merit an article of its own; my feeling was that proposing a merge was a better compromise than going for an all-out delete.  However, in retrospect, deleting the character list article might be the better option. Waggers 10:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Crew
I notice that somebody removed the "mergefrom" templates without merging the articles, and there's been no further discussion here, so I've gone for the "be bold" philosophy. I've changed all but two of the individual crew articles to redirects. I have not copied over any further information from the articles as (a) it is largely not notable, (b) the summaries already in this article are adequate, and (c) the article is already pretty long and doesn't need more content! The two I've left are Jeff Pillars and Robert D. Raiford as these seem to contain information that makes them notable in their own right. Nevertheless these two articles will require cleanup as currently they read as if this radio show is the most notable thing they do. I'll tag them for cleanup and remove the mergeto templates. Waggers 11:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Or perhaps it's because most of us in the South who listen to them can relate and agree with what they say. Bobafett5204 (talk) 23:02, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Cleanup
This article reads more like a homepage or fansite rather than a neutral, informative encyclopaedic article. By the same token, it looks like the talk page is being used as a message board about the show itself rather than for discussing the article... Waggers 15:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed - I also wonder who used the word bellicose as a descriptor for the target audience. I'd like to see a source on that or see it removed. Jimmylogan0916 16:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Of course it reads like a damned promotional site; they probably have someone who checks it every week to make them sound like the hottest thing on the air. That's what happens when you have a public-forum encyclopedia. These guys living depends on being promoted...

I really don't think the mention of Alice Cooper's (or anybody else, for that matter) ability to finish their program on time has any relevence to this article and it should probably be removed. If nobody disagrees and I get around to it I'll come back and remove it myself. Es330td 12:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The whole entry needs to be rewritten. It is not neutral, but is written like a fan webpage. On point of contention is the rightwing flavor of the show. I don't listen to FoxNews for news, and I no longer listen to the Big Show for entertainment.Gll1955 (talk) 19:45, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Purpose?
Does the article contain any information of interest to those who for some geographic or other reason do not or cannot listen to this show? The incredibly long lists seem especially pointless. Perhaps it is difficult to convey the spirit of a radio show in few words, but this article demonstrates that it's even harder to convey it in great numbers of them.

Perhaps some avid fan of the show would like to emulate Hercules and clean things up a bit? Snezzy 06:05, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Beltway sniper attacks
I'd like to think my historical background additions have added something to this article. It was in pretty bad shape when I got here, but I don't think I did much with the sections that were already here.

In case anyone wonders why something as insignificant (to the show) as the Beltway Sniper Attacks is here, I have three reasons for including it.

1. I wanted a source confirming oldies stations had a separate music feed, rather than just using the classic rock.

2. The one source I found, using a database one can no longer access for free at certain libraries, had a headline that demanded an explanation.

3. This incident shows the danger of automation that can't necessarily be adjusted for current events. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 16:20, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Should it be mentioned that they frequently plaigarize other people's material? For a while John Boy had a segment where he would say Deep Thoughts by John Boy then quote verbatim one of the Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey. For the brief time I listened to this show I heard MANY instances of comedy I had heard in other places. This is the only instance where I can specifically name the source from which they were stealing, but I have heard many jokes recycled off of e-mails that have 1,000 forwards in front of them. You know the type: ones with titles like "Why beer is better than women" and the like. 68.153.29.23 (talk) 03:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


 * They do use a lot of old jokes and copyrighted characters such as Granny Klump, Karl Childers, and The Grumpy Old Man. I don' t know if this is protected by free use/parody laws, but it may be worth noting. The_Iconoclast (talk) 05:49, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Politics or just marketing
The Big Show has a very right-wing slant. With the exception of Robert Raiford, the cast delights in its support of the former Bush administration and revels in its criticism of anything Democratic. The shows comedy sketches frequently skewer Obama and his administration. The dialogue between the casts and guests frequently follows this path. Even Mrs. Obama has been the subject of their ire.

While the Big Show markets itself as a show devoted to Rock n' Roll and NASCAR, they really have allowed conservative views (Republican) to be focal point of the show. Perhaps they are just playing to their base for ratings.

Gll1955 (talk) 00:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Or to their sponsors for control? Shanoman (talk) 06:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Errors in page
"In 2008 the show gained its first New Jersey affiliate, country music station 106.7 WKOE in North Cape May. In April 2009, the show went north of the Mason–Dixon line and went on the air on 95.9 WZDB Sykesville, Pennsylvania, "Rockin the Northern Alleghenies.""

The show was playing on eagle 107.5 in Wheeling, WV (above mason dixon line) in the late 90s or early 20s. I listened to it every day on the way to highschool (99-03) 216.147.124.176 (talk) 01:59, 4 November 2022 (UTC)