Talk:John Safran

Biography
Is any of this remotely true?

No.

It's true to my knowledge, but I live in Australia and watch his shows

Remote controlled seagull?
Somehow I don't think he "flew" a remote controlled seagull onto the pitch to entice Warnie with a cigarette. I would have thought it would a remote controlled base with a plastic seagull on top. In which case the correct verb would be "drove". Anyone with more information? Imroy 12:10, 2005 May 28 (UTC)


 * actually, it was a remote control car with a plastic seagull attached to the top with the cigarette attached which he drove to Warnie... he talked about it on speaking in tounges (episode 12). - Chris M (aust) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.26.97.66 (talk &bull; contribs).

Making way for Eminem
I think it should be mentioned that what he said on Andrew Denton was in jest - he wasn't serious. Anyone have any objections to this edit? I always ask for permission, isn't it sweet? :P

Raspberry Cordial
This section is essentially just a transcript of the episode of Music Jamboree which deals with Raspberry Cordial. This should either be referenced and indicated as such, or justified with a disclaimer that it's John's own words - hardly impartial. Kirkbroadhurst 20.44, 6 Sep 2005 (AEST)

I agree, i just watched it and its almost exactly word for word.. so is worded to be entertaining and not necessarily factual - ML

John Safran vs. God - dæmonic possesion and exorcism
I have updated the section on the exorcism shown with info from my memory of when Safran appeared on Enough Rope. I would appreciate it if someone else who saw this segment would please review this to ensure the accuracy of what I have written.

220.240.33.141 11:16, 20 December 2005 (UTC)W.Manley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.8.122.139 (talk) 13:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Speaking in Tongues - political correctness
Is having Andrew Bolt and Andrew Fraser as guests on the show politically correct? From the SBS website it seems to be quite controversial.

--Keiths 17:30, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I also dont think that Maguire 'lacks spark'--he has obviuosly been edited that way--his conversations are continually abruptly ended. Personally I think Maquire is miles better than Saffran who comes across as ignorant with no original thoughts in his head. Lentisco 02:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Which charts?
It peaked at #39 and was nominated for an ARIA. Should specify which charts this number refers to. --Calair 00:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it's pretty obvious it's the Australian charts. What other country would it be? M.C. Brown Shoes 08:04, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Radio (RRR)
the bit about rrr isn't totally correct. It says he was a regular host. I think it should just say he was a co-host. He was actually a host. And he isn't anymore. He was actually replaced by Angus Sampson. If I could remember when that was with any certainty, or could find references, I would update it myself. --UnnamedGent 17:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Radio (JJJ)
A song by Raspberry Cordial from "Taste Test", University Elevator Music, is legally downloadable from the Triple J website. What is the URL ? --UnnamedGent 17:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Fake bit of information?
"Recently John has mentioned on Triple J radio that he is somewhat sceptical about the quality of information available on the internet, and particularly Wikipedia. He suggested that from what he can see, the internet was full of little bits of misinformation about himself [citation needed]."

Unless this is a rather strong piece of irony, I think someone must have put this on as a joke, so for now I'm going to take the liberty of deleting it.Not Worth Waiting For 07:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems he really believed this up until very recently, on Triple J radio, Sunday Night Safran, 18th May 2008 he mentioned, 'I am never going to bag Wikipedia again, cos, you know, I have often bagged Wikipedia. But this has totally turned me around and I am now very pro-Wikipedia.' (at 45 minutes in podcast) after discovering the Navies of landlocked countries page which greatly interested him. Kestrel7e7 (talk) 09:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

2007 MTV Pilot?
Does anybody know enough about the new MTV Pilot "John Safran Saves America" to include it in the article. HE has spoken about it on Triple J a fair bit recently, both on his own show and as a guest on Top Shelf with Robbie Buck. All are on the podcasts.

JJJ???
He had a show on JJJ (a popular public radio station) with Father Bob that ran for at least two years, why isn't this in the article? 60.242.126.65 (talk) 11:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Concerning edit from 05:41, 24 May 2009 114.73.167.239, declaring triple j to be a "national faux-youth radio station" rather than a "national youth radio station": I don't think the John Safran wikipedia article is the proper place to air whatever grievances you might have about JJJ. It's own website at http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/about/ uses the phrase "Australia's only national youth broadcaster". Take it up at the triple j wikipedia article if you really want to criticise the station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.181.71 (talk)

Crucifixion
The contempt by this jew Safran and the discussion of his contemptuous actions towards Christianity has been labelled as "anti-semitism" by obvious zionist jew wikipedians. They should be warned that this is not jewipedia, and that the views of Christians towards Safran must be allowed to stand untouched. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blogger92 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * First, I must remind you of WP:NPA.  You have quite a hostile tone towards the other editors here. Problems with your additions include and are not limited to (in no particular order):
 * You must back up the claim that John Safran acted with contempt towards Christians. From what I've read, he took part in a annual Christian ritual in the Philippines.  I'm not sure how taking part in this any more contemptuous than, say, John Safran helping Father Bob with mass in a previous TV show.  Granted, it is quite a different event but nevertheless it is an annual event involving Christians in the Philippines that John Safran participated in.
 * You must back up the claim regarding Christian's views toward John Safran. It certainly doesn't cover the response from Christians as a whole.   For example, look at the reference for this event in the article in which  Father Bob Maguire plainly states: "He would not have done it contemptuously".  It does not support what you are saying, and, in fact, it says the opposite.
 * The tone is completely unencyclopedic and did not aheare to WP:NPOV.
 * It's too soon for an objective summary of the reaction to such an event which is required for any discussion on the subject in this article. There is no need to rush to include the reaction to the event - in time, I am sure there will be plently of reliable sources to write an objective summary of the response.
 * Material with any of these problems should not be included. Material with all four (and more) problems can't be removed fast enough. Wolfrock (talk) 02:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

The "antisemitic" comment was by me. For the record, I'm an Australian Christian. --124.176.39.36 (talk) 15:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I notice there has been a reference added regarding the death of Safran's mother. Specifically "Obituaries, Australian Jewish News, Friday, December 12, 2003". Is there an online version of this? I've searched the newspaper's website and didn't find anything like this, although it looks like their online archive only goes to 2005 or so. Given the hostility towards Safran in some of the recent edits I'd like to double check (this is a biography of a living person after all) but as I am in Canada it's not so easy. Wolfrock (talk) 07:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

"Contempt by this jew Safran"- Jesus was a jew, you know. No need to bandy the "jew" tag around like it is some sort of derogatory adjective. 137.111.47.29 (talk) 09:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

You can read the article "Safran 'crucifixion' offends villagers" at http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25325764-601,00.html "DEVOUT Christian followers of Good Friday's crucifixion rituals in the rural Philippines village of Kapitangan were devastated to learn that John Safran's nailing to the cross alongside local penitents was a TV comedy show stunt." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blogger92 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That is a start to addressing the second point but consider some of the other sources cited in the article, such as the quote from Father Bob, in which some Christians have different reactions. I don't doubt that some Christians were offended by this, but if we are going to discuss the reaction it must be an objective discussion rather than a couple choice reactions.  So, yes this is start, and thank you for taking the time to find a source.  That said, other three points as well as the WP:NPA concern still stand.  Wolfrock (talk) 00:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "Father Bob" is hardly an objective source by any means, being an on-air crony for some pathetic radio show they do together. Safran the jew has been particularly offensive to Christians.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blogger92 (talk • contribs) 17:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You've missed my point. Father Bob is obviously not an objective source.  Neither is  Bishop Julian Porteous or Father Gary Rawson or any of the others mentioned in the articles.  My point  was that the reaction has been varied rather than uniform and, more important, that there are currently insufficient sources for an objective summary of the reaction.  None of the references (here and in the article) are sufficient for an objective discussion of the reaction - they all contain a few choice reactions.  As I said above (point four in my first reply to you), I think it's too soon for an objective discussion as it's only just happened. By the way, what the deal with the "Safran the jew" comments? Wolfrock (talk) 01:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Age?
John Safran was born in 1972, not 1976.

The claim that he was 33 years of age on the news report regarding his crucifixion was most likely a mistake. John was 31 when we was in the middle of producing John Safran Vs. God, (which was in 2003), which is mentioned by Bob Larson in the final episode. (Kensane (talk) 08:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC))

Photo
I see this has no photo. There are some at Flickr, I'll try to get one. Richard001 (talk) 04:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Possible Music Jamboree reboot
I just tweeted at John and he said that this is not happening, so I've removed the section since it was uncited anyway.

Source: https://twitter.com/JohnSafran/status/380155742868606976

Niksko (talk) 02:30, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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