Talk:Jon Tester/Archive 1

Initial comments
Would someone update Tester's religion? "Church of God" is functionally meaningless.

I took out the word "unpopular" in reference to COnrad Burns, as it would be a POV thing. I replaced it with entrenched, and the phrase about his scandals. Also, removed the example image since it didn't have much point to it.

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Thats one reason I took it out. Do you need the rest? Jasper23 23:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Which Church of God?
The article says he's Church of God... but which one? When you go to the Church of God entry, you'll find literally DOZENS of bodies that go by that name. — Dale Arnett 15:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Controversies section
I'm moving this section to the talk page for now. The previous version was blatantly anti-Tester biased, and this one skews too far to seeming like a press release from Tester's office, and is not written in a very encyclopedic manner. Needs fixing, or failing that, it's better dropped than what's appeared so far. Mullibok 18:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., prides himself on promoting coal usage responsibly. For example, in May, 2007, he voted against a measure pushed by Sen. Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., to mandate certain levels of production of liquid fuels from coal, in order to ensure the passage of the full energy bill itself, which included measures on biofuels and carbon sequestration technologies.

The Thomas amendment, on which Republicans forced a vote despite bipartisan agreement to withhold amendments to the energy bill, would have created a mandate for 21 billion gallons annually in liquid coal fuels by 2022 -- such a large amount that keeping the amendment intact was viewed as almost certain to result in legislative death of the energy bill.

Tester's move may have been motivated by the desire to pass an energy bill this year, as well as the need to balance business assistance requests with the need for clean air and water. Tester's spokesperson says the Senator believes "we must first pave the way for a sustainable and responsible future in coal development by ensuring the capture and storage of carbon emissions." Greenhouse gas emissions from coal-based transportation fuels can be much higher than from other fuels. Tester is from a coal state and supports coal initiatives, but he believes in responsible measures to sustain the long-term health of the industry.

One article in one newspaper does not qualify as a controversy. This vote wasn't even mentioned in the Missoulian, for example. Dlabtot 19:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

2006 Election Results Conflict
This page has two seperate sets of results for the 2006 election. The official results are here. Should I change the one set to reflect these numbers? Trvr3307 (talk) 08:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

poorly worded
"Term limits would have prohibited Tester from running for state Senate for a third time. "

What does this mean? Were term limits implemented or not? Did he support their implementation? Or was he actually precluded from a third candidacy because of term limits? Needs to clarified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Druep (talk • contribs) 04:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

7-fingered?
Polydactyly? --Pawyilee (talk) 13:58, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Both hands combined, he lost several fingers in an accident with meat-cutting equipment. Montanabw (talk) 20:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Hill County category
So just because Tester was only BORN in Hill County hospital, "people from Hill County, Montana" category is not appropriate here? Does the same apply for Americans born overseas in military bases like John McCain? Arbor to SJ (talk) 07:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, the hospital in Big Sandy (pop. 600, remember) was tiny and probably not set up for OB stuff then (and now it isn't even a hospital, it's a nursing home), so his mom no doubt had to go to the next-closest hospital to deliver, even though it was in the neighboring county (up the road about 35 miles). You have to understand how small and remote Big Sandy is!  I don't think the Tester family ever actually lived in Havre, though if you can present a source that says they did, please find it.  His bio say nothing about it.  I guess the real question is this: does crossing the county line to have a kid and stay at the hospital for a couple days make someone "from" the town where the hospital happened to be?  Is there a WP guideline on this at all?  Now, in contrast, David Lynch's parents DID live in Missoula, MT when he was born and only moved away when he was two months old, so a "people from" cat there has an argument to stick.  And I can see that McCain, born in the Canal Zone, also warrants a "from" cat there, but, again, that's where his parents were living, and he is categorized in "aviators from the Panama Canal Zone" which has got to be a very weird categorization!  Now, I'm open for debate on this, and someone could always check with Tester's office directly, but I am pretty sure he nor his parents actually had a residence in Havre.   Montanabw (talk) 00:46, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Obamacare
Why not reference "Obamacare", instead of "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act"? The former is much more commonly used and recognized.CFredkin (talk) 23:34, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Because it isn't needed, Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is the proper and official name of the Act, and it's wikilinked, so if you don't know what it is, you click on the link and the first sentence reads, "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA),[1] commonly called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare,[2][3] is a United States federal statute ... " Also, using either of the other terms implies a bit of a political bias in each direction, (proponents tend to use ACA, opponents "Obamacare") so really no need to create unneeded drama by using non-neutral language. This is an encyclopedia, we like to keep it a little on the dry side. And we are supposed to be neutral as much as is practical. See WP:NPOV. I hope this helps. Montanabw (talk) 03:34, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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"Retired" vs. "Resigned"
There is an ongoing edit war involving me and some other editors. They believe that the proper word to use for Max Baucus leaving office in the lede is "retired." I believe it is "resigned" because Baucus was appointed United States Ambassador to China in the middle of his last term, leading to his resignation in February 2014 (which is NOT the end of his term in January 2015). See this link. JocularJellyfish (talk) 22:59, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Paging and JocularJellyfish (talk) 22:59, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That link does not say Baucus resigned or retired. It talks about him retiring at the end of the term but those plans were upended by Obama selecting him as ambassador.  The only time the word resign is used in the article is in reference to Walsh not Baucus.  That source does not make any characterization of how Baucus left.  ~ GB fan 23:14, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * In order for Baucus to end his tenure in the Senate before his term expired, he would've resigned. GoodDay (talk) 23:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Then find a source that says that. You saying it makes it original research.  The source on the article says he retired.  ~ GB fan 23:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There's only three ways for a US Senator to end his/her tenure prematurely - 1) death, 2) expulsion or 3) resignation. GoodDay (talk) 23:25, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The compromise edit is the best way to put it. ~ GB fan 23:26, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Consensus on compromise? Dschslava  Δx  parlez moi  01:51, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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Posting election figures can wait until the Tester victory is certified
Tester's certain victory margin kept increasing as returns were submitted to the Secretary of State of Montana. By November 7, Rosendale had conceded and the following day Tester's increasing lead amount to over 15,000 votes. It seems pointless to keep updating the numbers as results trickled in. Activist (talk) 18:14, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

See Also Section
The See Also section links to a documentary called Dark Money (film), which apparently Jon Tester promoted about special interests donations in Montana's elections. Without context having a politicians page redirect to a page called "Dark Money" with zero context seems like it could easily lead to misunderstandings, imagine adding Spotlight to a priest's page, so I was thinking I could add a context and switch "See Also" to "In Popular Culture", either that or I can simply add a short description so that reader doesn't falsely assume that the documentary is somehow critical of Jon Tester. Alcibiades979 (talk) 16:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

MR. TESTER.
MR. TESTER.

I voted for you in 2016 based on the lack of the integrity of your opponent, (only time I voted democrat) did not vote for you in the 2020 election for fear of you supporting the wildly, extremely far left position, if you don't backup West Virginia Joe, then I'm all for your political demise.

just a thought!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.190.226 (talk) 07:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Vietnam Veterans -hypothyroidism
I made a claim through the VA for hypothyroidism. The granted that I have it and taking medicine for it. They denied me any compensation. The VA said I had to have Magus which is a very rare form of hypothyroidism. I do Not believe this was your intention. I have appealed the VA decision. Any thoughts and or suggestions? Thank you for all you have done for us Vets. 2600:1012:B16B:2543:C8B9:FC5C:C1D7:9475 (talk) 02:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi - This page is actually used to talk about improving the John Tester Wikipedia article. However, while I do not have an affiliation with Senator Tester, nor do I live in Montana, I suggest calling his office directly for assistance. That's often the best way to get help from your Senator - they can help you with matters like this sometimes or advise you on what to do next. Be patient, if possible. I'd call your closest office. You can find it here. Good luck and take care. Missvain (talk) 03:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Changing Senate Rules
I haven’t heard anything about how you stand on this issue. I also believe that additional government money is the worst thing you can do. I’m a senior, a Vietnam Veteran, retired from the military, and a business owner. This is the worst that I have seen in my lifetime. I’ve been through many different economies and social issues. We need to tie work efforts to help from the people. Changing the rules has nothing to do with our society. Please represent the people of Montana instead of the Washington political Bubble. I don’t care what your skin color is or your gender is or all of that stuff. The content of your character is the deciding factor. I know sometimes you have to follow your party lines but you are sent to represent us. Thank You for listening and I hope your decisions make a difference. Thank You 216.228.51.44 (talk) 00:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)