Talk:José de Eusebio

It's De Eusebio, not de Eusebio
Although it was correctly pointed out that the name in Spanish should usually be de Eusebio, he spells his name with capital D, and it should therefore be listed as José De Eusebio. References? His youtube channel, his Twitter page and his facebook account is fairly simple to find. It's De Eusebio, not "de Eusebio".--Karljoos (talk) 00:51, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree, Karljoos, especially after looking at his official websites and those of his management. However, I couldn't move the page over the current redirect . I'll request the move from an administrator. Voceditenore (talk) 05:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion
-Cross wiki spam, not relevant. Same problem at the Spanish wikipedia. See https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_de_Eusebio Also the big part of the article is like a CV, the strong points are no citated or referenced. Vanity promotional page. Missanfitrite (talk) 11:49, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Your comments indicate that you have no understanding whatsoever of the subject area itself, nor of Wikipedia's notability and referencing requirements, nor of the criteria for deletion. You also failed to notify the author of this article of your speedy deletion tag. I note that you registered your account only 3 days ago and your first and only edit was this spurious deletion request with a similar pattern on the Spanish Wikipedia. Voceditenore (talk) 13:48, 31 August 2013 (UTC).

Contested deletion
Voceditenore (talk) 12:52, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) This is in no way eligible for deletion as A7 "does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject". He won a Latin Grammy award and was nominated for a Grammy Award for another recording, among other things. He passes WP:MUSICBIO on his discography alone, let alone the awards etc., all of which are referenced to reliable independent sources. He conducted the world premieres of 2 operas by Isaac Albéniz, and is the author of the critical editions of 4 opera scores by Albéniz.
 * 2) This is not cross-wiki spam or a "vanity" article, absurd allegations. I created the article in 2009 in response to a red link in Pepita Jiménez (opera) and have no relation whatsoever to this person. I am a long-standing member of WikiProject Opera, an editor here since January 2006, and the creator of over 300 Wikipedia articles in this area. This article was further expanded by another long-standing editor in the area . The Spanish Wikipedia article was created in 2012 by an entirely different editor and appears to be an uncredited translation of this article. User:Missanfitrite's "crusade" to get it deleted from the Spanish Wikipedia would be a loss there of an article on a prominent Spanish musicologist and award-winning conductor.

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because there are credible claims for notability and a Google News Search supports those claims. This should never have been speedied as A7, imo. --Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Proposal of deletion
Not relevant, vanity page. The subject is not worthy of an Encyclopedic entrance, although he is a real person. In addition to that, both articles, the English one, and the Spanish one, offer a lack of cites, they can not demonstrate even what should be describing many aspects of his bio... It is very optimistic in many aspects. CD publications do not have citations or references such as the commercial editions tracking numbers.

The number of days or years I am registered is not the matter. I do understand user Voceditenore is a good wikipedist, and I do respect his/her work, but the problem is that Wikipedias are full of pseudo-stars promoted by infiltrated wikipedists who are populating the encyclopedias with their own "protected" and hereto "promoted" team or people. I don't say this is one of those cases, but could be perfectly. The conductor himself gives very low results in search engines, see by yourself. --Missanfitrite (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but you still show no understanding whatsoever of notability and referencing here. The Latin Grammy award and Grammy nomination have a reference . The CDs have reviews in multiple reliable publications, including books . Look at the coverage of him going back to 1997 in ABC alone . Once again, please read the criteria at WP:MUSICBIO. Note also that you have placed an AfD tag on the article but have not created a discussion page. Please read WP:AFD. If you do not create the discussion, the tag will be removed. Voceditenore (talk) 17:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I removed the redlinked AFD tag before seeing this discussion, which is my error - but if the rationale for deleting this article is that the subject is not notable, then the fact that they won a Grammy is fairly strong evidence the other way. Such an AFD would likely close as Keep, if that is the primary argument for deletion. That said, there are issues with the refs and perhaps some of the language can be toned down - WP:SOFIXIT! AFD is not for cleanup, as they say. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 17:54, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * His protestations to the contrary User:Missanfitrite is a WP:SPA that seems to have been created here solely to delete this article, with the editor apparently having done so successfully on the Spanish Wikipedia. See his "mission statement" on his userpage. Yet I've stated above, there is no shortage of WP:RS indicating notability for this artist, and it would a rather snowy keep. Something odd is going on here. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:18, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The Spanish article wasn't deleted. The link to it in User:Missanfitrite's first comment here was faulty. (I've fixed it.) In fact, this morning an administrator at the Spanish Wikipedia declined the speedy and expressed disbelief that anyone would have tagged it in the first place . Voceditenore (talk) 06:44, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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