Talk:Joshua Tree National Park

Gallery
WP:NOT a gallery of images. All images other than the amount that are in this article need to go to commons and be uploaded there and tagged with the Joshua Tree national park category. A link is at the bottom of the page. I have also removed all images that do not have source information. Please do not recreate the gallery, commons is the correct repository for this kind of material. pschemp | talk 18:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

This is obviously a self-interested question, but what is the purpose of the gallery tag if galleries are not allowed on WP? I understand the point re: the commons, but I've seen hundreds of galleries on WP articles, and in fact a number of the US national park articles feature a small collection of images illustrating various features and highlights of the park. If you found the gallery to be self serving, fine, but to make a blanket statement that galleries aren't allowed on WP doesn't exactly gel with the common use of the gallery tag.Pixel23 20:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

you can't read the whole article the pictures are overlapping


 * i tried to fix the layout, but it seems like there are too many photos for the amount of text. at least one should be removed, maybe two, to make the article's layout flow better. ikes (talk) 17:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * i went ahead and got rid of the photos except for the map, the pic of the joshua tree, and a nice photo of a sunset at four rocks. there is already a link on the page to more joshua tree photos in wikipedia commons. too many photos on this page just destroys the article layout. ikes (talk) 17:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably could have left another one or two. Random readers don't know about commons, not even to click on the link, and in any case the commons pictures are typically organized for the benefit of editors, not readers, so readers who end up at commons find a virtual shoebox of photos, not anything like an organized gallery (and many of the descriptions are not even in English!). Stan (talk) 18:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's fine, if they fit in with the text. I had trouble getting them to look ok, so i pared the number down to what i could fit in the layout. ikes (talk) 21:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Gram Parsons
i removed the gram parsons reference for a couple reasons. he was not a rock climber as stated, although he was enamored with joshua tree. the trivia regarding his connection with joshua tree and the failed cremation of his body are interesting, but there currently is no section in the article where this would fit, and it certainly doesn't belong in the climbing section. ikes 18:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It surely doesnt fit in the climbing section, but Gram Parsons fascination and partial cremation at Joshua Tree are very significant and very much deserve a spot in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.51.201 (talk) 23:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Photo/text imbalance
There is a real imbalance with the photos, just way too many for the amount of text, especially the panaramas. They are gorgeous yes but too big and too many. Perhaps a Gallery section and a Commonscat link possibly? Marcia Wright (talk) 14:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

New "Category:Southern Mojave-Salton region"
A new Category:Southern Mojave-Salton region was created by an anonymous editor. It is tied to Category:Northern Mojave-Mono Lake region and overall Great Basin watershed, and interesting. Linked this article to it because: 1. The Park is in its zone; 2. For those not "hydrology topic-nomenclature oriented" it gives a known locater on the "Southern Mojave-Salton region index page." Honoring several "wiki-parentage lines" (Category stacking) to the Park with this link. Please discuss if incorrect or otherwise Look2See1  t a l k →  19:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

File:Giant Marbles in Joshua Tree National Park.jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Giant Marbles in Joshua Tree National Park.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on July 23, 2010. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2010-07-23. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks!  howcheng  {chat} 22:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

area of j-tree
Seriously, why the area of the park in acres?? OK to have, but what about more common usages, like square miles, or for the many visitors from out of country, square kilometers? Mccrorypilot (talk) 04:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)Jim Mc.


 * The reason is that the United States of America uses acres for parks. House1090 (talk) 07:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyright issues
Some of this article has been copied from this blog, especially on the section "Mojave Desert". Could someone please replace copied material with original text? Thanks--(Wikipedian1234 (talk) 16:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC))


 * I came here to comment on the exact same thing. For example, this part is verbatim: "These communities are under some stress, however, as the climate was wetter until the 1930s, with same hot and dry conditions that provoked the Dust Bowl affecting the local climate. These cycles were nothing new, but the original vegetation did not prosper when wetter cycles returned." And a blog cannot be used as a reliable reference in any case, so the copied content should probably simply be deleted. Invertzoo (talk) 00:35, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Joshua Tree National Park 2013.jpg to appear as POTD
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Re Climate section
The "Climate" section concludes with a brief paragraph including the lines, "Joshua Tree is becoming hotter and drier due to climate change. From 1895 to 2016 the annual precipitation has dropped by 39% and the annual temperature has increased by 3 °F." I think this is unclear and perhaps uninformative. Appreciable climate change began well after 1895. If the 39% temperature change - which is huge - spanned the entire 121 years, the phases need to be broken down further. I am no expert. It looks like climate changes including warming became noticeable on a gross scale in the 1960s. One wants to know then, how much of the cited change happened since, say, 1960, how much before? The answer definitely affects the overall picture of things, and may raise other questions.. 2603:8001:7401:5E9B:F8A5:8521:C063:E47F (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2023 (UTC)