Talk:Julia Pastrana

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There may also be an anthropologist named Julie Pastrana. ~ender 2008-03-16 00:57:AM MST

Being African-American is an 'accusation'?
Although I recognize that in some periods of American history, it was indeed an accusation to allege that someone (especially someone who claimed otherwise) was of African heritage, it's certainly wrong to use the phrase accusation that she was of African American descent in Wikipedia's voice. Do we mean She was examined several times [in efforts] to prove that she was not of African American descent—"in efforts" added if the results were not conclusive. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:12, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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Change Image
Does anyone know how to change the image? Using this image which is of Pastrana's body after death dehumanizes her. I'd like to see the entry include a portrayal of Pastrana made during her lifetime--such as this one: Cakeypal (talk) 21:08, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I've gone ahead and added the lithograph to the infobox and moved the image of her embalmed body to the "After death" section. I think the photograph still deserves a place in the article, so people can see what her body actually looked like as opposed to an artistic reproduction. Surachit (talk) 01:09, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Surachit (talk) Thank you so much. That's bothered me for years! Cakeypal (talk) 15:19, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Suggested change for intro
Hi,

I have a suggested change to reduce repetitive information in the intro that might help make it more easy to read. The change I have is specifically for the first three sentences of the intro.

My suggestion is as follows:

"Julia Pastrana (August 1834 – 25 March 1860) was a performer and singer during the 19th century who garnered attention for her unusual looks caused by two genetic conditions. She had generalized hypertrichosis lanuginosa, a condition that caused Pastrana to have excessive facial and body hair."

My proposed change would remove where she was born, but I think that information could be better fit in the Life and Career section.

Leaving this here on the talk page to see if anyone else has thoughts.

On The Nile (talk) 17:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Source for "nondescript"?
I don't know if there are spanish-language sources for the name, but it seems to me like "The Nondescript" on the poster is an English mangling of something like la indescriptible? And if so, it should be mentioned. 80.71.142.36 (talk) 13:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Probably not. It seems like it might be some sort of outdated meaning, see this quote from the source used to back up the first time "The Nondescript" was used in the article: Julia was preceded in London, England by impressive newspaper announcements touting her as ‘a Grand and Novel Attraction’. Now going by the epithet ‘The Nondescript’ – a term that in this era mean (sic) something unexplainable – Julia was now being show by one Mr. Theodore Lent and was a rousing success. Does this clear things up? Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 13:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ok but this is 10 seconds search: https://books.google.dk/books?id=OmiecFnEeTIC&pg=PA54#v=onepage (halfway down the page) cf https://i.imgur.com/HFlSjGS.png
 * 80.71.142.36 (talk) 14:05, 10 December 2022 (UTC)