Talk:Jumpstyle

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Skank
"The dance is also called skank but is different from the Skank associated with goth/rock/metal genres."

Skank is, as the relevant wiki-entry suggests, associated not with goth, rock or most metal genres; but with ska and some hardcore (punk) and metalcore genres. I suggest an edit.--LarsMessy 14:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The dance has nothing to do with MC Hammer. Jumping or Skiing is based on 'hakken' indeed.

I'm from Belgium + active in the jump scene and Jumpstyle has absolutely nothing to do with MC Hammer. I'am going to remove this from the article because it is false information. Hypnotical 09:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Is this the style they also call "Jumper" in Belgium? There´s no entry under this name. 195.46.254.116 22:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge
Jumpen and Jumpstyle dance are essentially the same thing, except one is the dutch name for the other.24.205.191.138 02:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Quality
The quality of this article is appalling. Perhaps it could do with a translation of the somewhat bigger articles available in some of the other languages? Besides, I wonder if this article could be merged with a broader article.. obviously this is about a dance, not a music genre. --IJs 13:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Jumpstyle is a music genre and a dance.

If one searches for "Jumpen", it redirects to jumpstyle. However, the page I get is different than when I go to jumpstyle directly. (For instance, the "jumpstyle directly" page says it's from Detroit, the Jumpen->Jumpstyle redirect says it's from Belgium.) How is this possible?

Actually, it's from Chicago, as mentioned more then needed

Retard at comp
Its "hot" in the benelux? what the hell?

Hype made by sport shoe industry
BEWARE: Jumpstyle was created by a capitalist conspiracy of way overpriced name brand sport shoe companies, solely to prove that counterfeit shoes fall apart after a day when treated like this.

However also fake tennis shoes will last way long enough when not tormented by jumpstyle. It also wears down the real ones. Thus do you really want to become puppets of Nike, Adidas and others by participating in this hype?!

Who needs jumpstyle??? Boycott brands - cheap shoes rule! ;-)

149.225.14.30 (talk) 00:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

www.youreatwat.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.2.228 (talk) 16:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment
This article is becoming more and more of a sluggish heap of text. Only the first alinea holds true information to the genre. Also, since the article differs LARGELY in each given language, it really has no feet to stand on.

I would like to nominate for a deletion in every language that's avaible, though I don't know how.

Either that, or have the article renamed to "Chicago Hard House".

Mainly because this whole "Jumpen" has gone to far already, It's a MARKETING THEME used in Europe to sell cheap Chicago Hard House to the youth.

"Jumpstyle" sounds *nothing* different at all from early Hard House.

Here's a few examples:

George Centeno - Check this out DJ Bam Bam - Blow your Mind Mark V and Poogie Bear - War Noise Makers - Don't Stop Jack-N-House - A man with a horn Louis Love - Jedi Raver Rick Garcia - Grind Remix

Funnily enough, none of those get mentioned in the article, only Belgian and Dutch stuff.

Although to even *remotely* suggest that "Jumpstyle" is a descendant of "Hardstyle" is ridiculous, both genres have a complete different structure.

One of the first dj's that played Hard House by the way was "Bad Boy Bill", now if that doesn't ring a bell.

I've gradually lost my respect for Wikipedia over the months for keeping this article up, I know people can add stuff, But this is insane, insomuch that it is mostly false information.

Do with it what you want.

Regards,

Michael.
 * It doesn't really matter if it's just a marketing name, if it is notable under the name "Jumpstyle" then it deseerves it's own article. John Hayestalk 10:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * "It's a MARKETING THEME used in Europe to sell cheap Chicago Hard House to the youth." Yeah that's good info.. please cite and put it in the article.

Marketing theme?? Musical genres do not have marketing initiatives. You think all the european hardcore labels clubbed together to rename their music Jumpstyle and advertise it as such? It doesnt work like that. Also this style has nothing to do with hard house or chicago house, its roots are in european hard techno.

This article
Is silly. :) It's a good start though. Needs allot of cleanu but good start. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.124.28 (talk) 20:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

"Is not a crime" meme
Can someone clarify where this "Jumpstyle is not a crime" meme comes from? Wanting to know this is the reason I looked u this article on the wikipedia, but it seems this article isn't even close to finished and still neeeds a lot of work. Very unfortunatly for those curious souls, like me, that expect to find everything on the wikipedia.. .--SevenMass (talk) 23:36, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

That would be from the early days of skateboarding, in which just about everyone thought skate culture was corrupting the youth of the nation or whatever. So, "Skateboarding is not a crime" was their response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.14.172 (talk) 03:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

There's a musical... footloose or something... that says "Dancing is not a crime!"

how-do-i-promote-my-band.com
Hi,

Listen up kids, this is wikipedia! Not how-do-I-promote-my-band.com!

Ownstyle and Sidejump are not new styles, just the fact that people jump around faster then normal (offbeat) isnt worth to write 5 centences.... Ownstyle and Sidejump belong in the "freestyle" section.

The main development of the dance jumpstyle was made in 2005-2007. In this periode jumpstyle was only known in Holland, Belgium, North-France and West-Germany. So all east european addittions and examples have no value at all here, so stop this redicoulous countrypromotion.

If someone want's to write about artists, do research! And write about all relevant once's and not just some selfpromotion!

Jumping is not a crime is NOT our "unofficial blabla", just the 14 year old kids weared the t-shirts a lot, they don't wear it anymore!

Jumpstyle has NOTHING to do with hakken, I know hakken and the hardcore scene as well as I know the Jumpstyle scene, Jumpstyle and Hardcore are anti-poles. So no "evolved from" the only connection Jumpstyle has the same connection with hardcore as with regular techno...

Keep it real please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.72.74 (talk) 21:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Removed editorial. *me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.83.181.170 (talk) 23:39, 27 December 2009 (CUT)

What type(s) of dance is Jumpstyle
Is it not a rave dance?

clean up needed
The whole article sounds like a teenager giving his opinion. This dance phenomenon is quite widespread and deserves an unbiased and encyclopedic description. We need facts and serious editing, not first person anecdotes and impressions. class="autosigned">—Preceding unsigned comment added by markvanslam I just edited 1 part, most parts are a little bit like the Dutch article, but with less details. Note the instructions would be better if written by a teenager or a not realy old adult. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.171.9.121 (talk) 14:56, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

It´s a shame that a man like Patrick Jumpen is qualified between such nobodies and not mentioned more detailed for what he did for the international growth of the jumpstyle scene. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.43.0.23 (talk) 15:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Cleaned up article
My changes to the article have been reversed, I bet this wouldn't happen if I were using my ridiculously old Wikipedia account from years ago. 124.169.62.108 (talk) 02:23, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Popularity Decline
Jumpstyle is hardly popular in Western Europe anymore. But it's still very much alive in the Eastern European underground scene with jumpstyle leagues still going on. 09I500 (talk) 16:34, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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