Talk:Just Surrender

Inappropriate tone
This article sounds like it was written by the band, and has significantly too much hyperbole. Lines like "invited on tours that other bands work for years to get on", "embarked on a mission"', and "thousands of people were listening to them every day" are grossly in appropriate for a Wikipedia article, particularly given that they're not properly sourced. -- ChrisB 04:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It's sourced by the band's webpage...Which I would expect to be fairly factual.

How is this article different from a lot of the other smaller band articles?

Obviously factual - over 1 million listens - with there current amount of plays they would have had to been posted on purevolume for 28 years to only have had a thousand plays a day! so obviously it has been a lot more plays than that! Get yor facts strait before doubting them - do you know who they have played with?!

I'm taking the article warning banners down. As one of the people above me have stated that this article is written a lot like the other smaller band articles. And besides the quotes it still does resemble in tone to most wikipedia articles. -IAngel of FuryI


 * Until somebody bothers to address the problems cited above, the banners stay. It's POV nonsense, plain and simple.  Seriously, you can source "Their growing fan base was eager for more recorded material."?  Their website cannot qualify as a source for that statement according to WP:V.  Show me a published article, or get it out of the article.   -- ChrisB 01:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Most of the information was taken from the band's website, myspace, purevolume and MTV's you heard it here first...I don't even know where you can get more information than that short of asking the band members themselves. The band is so unknown outside the east coast is very hard to find an article or review on them. Absolutepunk doesn't even have them. But they are a notable band so I wrote an article using the little sources I had...Feel free to contribute yourself and find more concrete info on them.

My name is Andrew Meunier and I'm a founding member of this band. The article is pretty accurate. However, we formed (me,Jay, and Steve) on Halloween night of 2001, under the name A Second Chance. Furthermore, I didn't leave the band until Christmas of 2006, shortly after flying home from Los Angeles, where we were co-writing songs for We're In Like Sin with some very high profile song writers. I then rejoined the band about 1 year later and left in mid-2008.

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This page should be edited by professionals
So i feel im slightly out of my element here, as much as i would say i know a thing or two about editing wikis, i don't feel i am up to standard to edit this page, we should really try and get some more well versed editors to work on this page and make it better, as to me atleast,it seems like one of the least reliable pages on Wikipedia BrightenRichardsDraper (talk) 18:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)