Talk:Justification for the state

2004 comments
The articles The purpose of government and The justification of the state are both pieces of User:Larrys Text. The justification of the state says: "Notice I am using the words "state" and "government" interchangeably here." Therefore I suggest to merge the two into one article, since the (one and the same) author claims they are in essense about the same (unless seomeone wants to split hairs state/govt and purpose/justfn). Mikkalai 01:04, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I just split the hair
In strict usage, "state" and "government" aren't the same. I've just edited this article to reflect the traditional understanding of the difference. In a republic, "We the People" insofar as we act as voters, are the state. Our elevcted officials and their appointees are the government. That, at any rate, is the pertinent theory.

This article deserves a category but I'm hard pressed to divine an appropriate one--Hooperbloob 04:55, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Inclusion of Iroquois democracy
the discussion of the development of democratic institutions in North America needs to be expanded by adding the Iroquois tribes who developed the concept of democratic governance independently of Greece or the age of reason. It shows bias and adherence to outdated assumptions about Native Americans. This is evident in the many searches I had to use before I found the citation. Spraygal109 (talk) 00:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)