Talk:Kaitag language

Please confirm classification
The WikiProject classification for Kajtak language is. However, the page has less than 100 words, so it might not meet the grading criteria. If it should be a stub, then please set Stub on this talk page & reinstate the stub tag(s) on the article page. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 15:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. --JorisvS (talk) 18:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Naming
Hello there. I am speaker of this language and would like to contribute to this page. First of all, I would like to set proper naming: Kaitag language. Historically the state was known as Kaitag Utsmiate and calling the language the same way would seem consistent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alkaitagi (talk • contribs) 07:59, 9 November 2019 (UTC)


 * So, I've created a new page "Kaitag language" that is being redirected to from this one, but was unaware I could move this page. Now this page cannot be properly moved, because that new page is taking the name, and the new page is not linked to other translations of this article. Need help of administrators to resolve the issue. I guess we need to delete the new page, and then properly move this one. Alkaitagi (talk) 12:55, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Solved. Alkaitagi (talk) 20:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Update of sources
An advice: Hi, do not delete any content with sources. --Karthax (talk) 15:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello. I apologize if I've violated the rules. Can you point at the mistake, please? Alkaitagi (talk) 15:20, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey Karthax. Writing here regarding the Kaitag language page. I get it that deletion of sourced content is a bad thing, but what if the sources were updated? You've brought back the reference on Ethnologue page of Dargwa, but that was fixed a few months ago. No longer Kaitag is listed as a dialect on Ethnologue, and no longer Russian Academy of Sciences considers it to be a dialect either.

That's the first point. Secondly, you refer to "Peoples of USSR" to provide dialectal division. That source is obsolete compared to the latest 2000+ research by Russian Academy of Sciences.

Dear Karthax, I'm once again pointing you at the fact that the statement "The Ethnologue lists it under the dialects of Dargwa but recognizes that it may be a separate language" is not correct. Please, go to the Ethnologue Dargwa page and see yourself that Kaitag is no longer listed there as a dialect, it now has its own full page. Furthermore, "Until 1930 Kaitak was considered a distinct language" is also implying that it is still not a language, while here's the link to the latest 2022 registry of languages of Russian Federation by the Academy of Science. We can put that obsolete but sourced info into the History section, but I don't see how listing the old data right in the first paragraph can be a good thing. Alkaitagi (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Karthax, I see you fixed the link to actually point to the Kaitag Ethnologue report, but the label still writes about the Dargwa report. My proposal is to move the older sources into a dedicated History section which further will be reinforced by more sources from early soviet to late imperial times. I try to avoid edit warring, but my desire to come to an agreement within discussion here is neglected, and I cannot appreciate the lack of communication from your side. Alkaitagi (talk) 18:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I deleted the outdated statements. Don't know why this is even in question. — kwami (talk) 00:35, 12 April 2022 (UTC)