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Although some might refer to Kalapana as a ghost town, this is actually a misnomer. The Hawaiians who lived in the path of the lava flows that covered the land moved to nearby areas, and soon after the lava had hardened, many began to replant -- starting with coconuts along the new edge of the land. A new community of the original native Hawaiian residents is also in formation, at the edge of the lava near the Black Sand Beach. Hawaiians have a special view of the volcano, home to Pele, Goddess of the Volcanoes, and they recognize the eruptions and lava flow as part of the natural cycle of creation that actually births new lands at the same time as some of the surface elements of the existing land are overrun. For an accurate depiction and description of Kalapana prior to the lava flows, when a community of native Hawaiians lived there,in a lifestyle that was close to the land, see "Kalapana a Hawaiian Place," at: maryannlynch.com.Mary ann bruchac lynch 22:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)Mary Ann Lynch[reply]

True. I had to see it for myself, but it's amazing. —Viriditas | Talk —Preceding comment was added at 08:03, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, and I have removed the term “Ghost” from the infobox caption, over a decade after these objections were raised. Jusdafax (talk) 00:34, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, and I changed the category, because there is a small population. --ThT (talk) 08:46, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

July 2010[edit]

The map of the USGS shows, that the flow did not cover Hwy 130, because it was already under the 1986-1992 flow field. --ThT (talk) 05:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The county bulldozed and repaved the highway post 1992, just as they will again. If Hwy 130 had a page I'd add it back in, but at this point it seems moot. The given ref states clearly that it was covered by the recent flow. --Travis Thurston+ 07:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I just tried to make the text understandable for readers, who are not familiar with the situation in an area with active volcanism. Considering a Highway is a public road, especially a major road connecting two or more destinations, it may lead to misunderstandings to mention the highway specifically, because after the junction with Hwy. 137 the Hwy. 130 is a dead end. Also the article is about Kalapana, therefore in my opinion the reference to the situation of the town is more important than the Hwy. However, I think it's a good idea to start the article Hawaii Route 130 (cf. List of Hawaii state highways) and to have the detailed information about the road there. Best, --ThT (talk) 20:49, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Today I checked the situation on site. About 2500 ft after the junction with Hwy. 137 the Hwy. 130 ends with a sign RESTRICTED ACCESS AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY (cf. Puna News, 19 Jul 2010). From there the road is repaved as a provisional access for residents and to the County viewing area only. This road and the remaining parts of the old road I'd not consider to be a highway anymore. --ThT (talk) 05:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]