Talk:Kalpavriksha

Merge proposal

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Don't merge as this article is specific to Indian beliefs in the three religions of Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism, whereas wish tree deals with other subjects such as coin wells, Cootie wells, alcohol and other offerings etc and deals. There is only one sentence of Kalpavriksha in the entire article. Hence, don't merge the two articles. Best solution would be to included Wish tree under "See also" section.-- Nvvchar . 01:11, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't merge: I have been invited to comment here, but I agree to but Nvvchar has said. Currently this section links Kalpavriksha as a main article. The article Kalpavriksha itself needs to be expanded (alternative name might be "Kalpa taru"), Hence, I propose to keep it in as it is condition. --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:21, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Decline: Do not agree on merge proposal. I agree with both Nvvchar and Titodutta, Kalpavriksha (Kalpataru) is more specific to dharmic tradition and has gain an almost mythical status. It can not be generalized with other wishing trees.  Gunkarta  talk 12:54, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose merge. Kalpavriksha might be a type of wish tree, but the topic is significant to deserve its own article. utcursch | talk 14:03, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


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Sikhism
I removed the references to Parjat and Sikhism as it is inapplicable. Parjat is one of many India specific concepts which are mentioned and re-defined in Sikh texts. Further explanation can be seen in this article for example:

https://www.gurbani.org/gurblog/parjat/

One example being the following verse:

ਬਿਰਖੁ ਜਮਿਓ ਹੈ ਪਾਰਜਾਤ ॥ ਫੂਲ ਲਗੇ ਫਲ ਰਤਨ ਭਾਂਤਿ ॥ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਿ ਅਘਾਨੇ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣਹ ਗਾਇ ॥ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਇ ॥ : by remembering and practicing the divine Wisdom / Virtues, PARJAT (wish fulfilling metaphorical tree) has sprouted Within me, which has been laden with precious Virtues like many kinds of flowers and fruits. (I am now) fully satisfied living with the divine Wisdom / Virtues. Jan Nanak, always remember the divine Naam (Wisdom / Virtues). (ਪੰਨਾ 1180).

The use of Parjat is explicitly metaphorical and not meant in any literal way.

Furthermore, someone included this line in the section on Sikhism, which I've also expunged.

Sikhism
In Sikhism, the Sri Guru Granth Sahib's scriptures have various references to the tree, more commonly referring to it as "Parjat", which translates to "Elysian Tree".

I have no idea where this concept of "Elysian Tree" comes from and it seems to be manufactured out of whole cloth, perhaps to ensure the Sikhism section isn't blank. 207.194.38.164 (talk) 18:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)