Talk:Kate Nash

3.2 Fiction Records

 * Despite being ignored by commercial radio.

Is this a joke? This song is being played to death on commercial radio! E.g. Essex FM. This and James F ucking Blunt. Grrr! --194.176.105.40 15:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey come on - I only heard it twice today --Dilaudid (talk) 09:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Biography assessment rating comment
WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

Brief, but basically a B.

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 19:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Just Jack - LDN is a Victim
He even says at the end of the song he's in it and then sings a bit of Starz in Their Eyes in a sarcastic way, that makes me think a lot more than just a "few" people believe it is actually him. Andy86 13:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Kiss me Kate?
I heard a while back that her album was called kiss me kate. is that true!?!??!!?!?!?!? Thankipops Jimmy93211 22:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, it's called Made of Bricks

Name of Album Chinese Democracy?
This is someone taking the piss right?

Dating James Kennedy
This claim is unverified and needs to be deleted unless proper sources are quoted. The reference given (http://www.myspace.com/misanthropyforbeginners) is an empty myspace profile. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Article protection
This page is being vandalised a lot. We might ned to consider some level of protection if this goes on, which would be a great shame. Indisciplined 23:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Indie
I think it is incorrect to both Indie and Indie Rock as genres. I will remove the term Indie. Also, do you think Indie Pop would be a good term to describe Kate Nash's musical style? Thundermaster367 15:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Indie Pop sounds right to me.. Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 23:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I think someone needs to sort out the spelling in this article.
"conpliments" being one example, also the inconsistant use of quotation marks.


 * Agreed. I had a go, but it still needs more work. Indisciplined 14:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Nash attacking Lily Allen's compliments
At the end of the "background" paragraph it says "Nash has recently attacked Allen's compliments, stating she is "the total opposite of a chav" Did Nash mean that she herself is the total opposite of a chav or that Lily Allen is? The "she" should be replaced by a name. A source for that comment would be nice as well. --Janzomaster 07:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't add this, but I believe, from other articles, that she - Kate, that is - is saying that of herself. I'm not entirely sure how to rephrase that. Also, I've only seen similar articles on Orange World, and I've tried jeevesing for a source but it's proving difficult to find any article that uses those exact words. -- Torika 15:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

3.2 Fiction Records
''Despite being ignored by commercial radio. Is this a joke? This song is being played to death on commercial radio! E.g. Essex FM. This and James Fucking Blunt. Grrr! --194.176.105.40 15:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)''

In agreement with this post, it is inaccurate to say Kate Nash's record 'Foundations' was 'ignored by commercial radio'. I work for a commercial radio station and can tell you that a more accurate (and fittingly colloquial) description of commercial radio's treatment of the record would be: Commercial radio absolutely rinsed it to death.

So much so that our station was mockingly referred to as 'Kate Nash FM' for the months in which the record was on heavy rotation. --Joeljaggar 14:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Except, of course, that the song was barely in the top 100 of the airplay chart when it was released, it was only when the song became a massive success that radio stations started playing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.242.56 (talk) 14:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Book
Without having the referenced issue of NME to hand, I can't check, but I doubt that she would say that she "may release the book under a different name so that the millions of people who don't like her music might like her book." I did find a link to a summary of the interview which mentions the seven foot transvestite but not the pseudonym thing- but I don't know off-hand how to add it as a reference. MorganaFiolett (talk) 17:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Middlesex
Sorry to be pedantic but I see this mistake being made everywhere: Middlesex no longer exists as a place or a county and hasn't existed for the past forty years, only as a Royal Mail postal district (see http://www.sog.org.uk/prc/middlesex.shtml). Harrow is an outer borough of Greater London, not Middlesex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.60.161 (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * But there's still Middlesex CCC isn't there? Therefore it must exist! 86.141.54.98 (talk) 07:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Middlesex was abolished on 1 April 1965. It is still part of the name of some clubs, a hospital, a university etc., as they haven't changed their names since then. Jim Michael (talk) 10:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Beware small minds
Removed yet another lazy use of "recently" and replaced it with a date. Stop using relative time descriptions that will make no sense to people in 10, 100 or 1000 years time. Think big! This is an encyclopaedia. As a geologist, recently means within the last few 100 million years to me. If I were a cosmologist it would mean a rather longer period. Although articles like this are about people or things with very transient appeal there is a danger that, in a few years when the regular updates stop, some of the uses of “recently” are left in and become more difficult to replace with absolute dates. This lowers the quality of the entire enterprise. Take a pride in your edits and long live anonymous editing. Try to exceed the guidelines not just keep within them. May all your thoughts be big ones!

Is Kate from Ireland or England?
I've seen this change a couple of times, and in the article's body it says she's from Harrow, but then in the infobox it says she's from Dublin, can someone please clear this up for good? A good reference is needed, for example an interview where she talks about it, or multiple mag refs?? Andre666 (talk) 15:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

She may well have been born in Dublin though I can't find any sources that verifies it, but since she's quoted herself as saying ' I'm an English rose ' you have to take it from the horses mouth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.159.184.211 (talk) 21:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Can I just second what the previous unsigned commenter stated. He has said that "she's quoted herself as saying ' I'm an English rose ' you have to take it from the horses mouth.". This is correct. Wikipedia should eb based on verifiable sources, and until I corrected it it stated that Kate Nash was Irish and then had a link saying she was English. Your place of birth is not as important as the nationality of your parents. For example a British couple on holiday in Turkey who gave birth over there would still have a British child. Similarly, Kate Nash, whilst being born in Ireland has grown up in England, and most importantly, describes herself as being English. -confusedmiked —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.40.24.189 (talk) 11:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

the statement doesn't say she is irish it says she is irish born, which is correct and accompanied with a source. Skitzo (talk) 11:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

i've changed it to irish born english singer, as the source is actually about her quote calling herself 'English' and nothing to do with where she was born - is everyone in agreement with this?

I'm looking at other examples of people born overseas like John McEnroe for example is listed as John Patrick McEnroe, Jr. (born February 16, 1959 in Wiesbaden, Germany) is a former World No. 1 professional tennis player from the United States.

or Kiefer Sutherland (born in London) is listed as Kiefer William Frederick Dempsey George Rufus Sutherland (born December 21, 1966) is an Emmy- and Golden Globe Award-winning Canadian actor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.141.162.114 (talk) 00:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi the statement that she is an irish born english singer' is clumsy and nonsensical. Culturally she is english, her accent is english, and she has lived in England all her life. Being english is a key part of her onstage persona and the way she speaks and acts. She isn't Irish, and we don't have any source to back up the statement that she is other than that she was born there. She described herself as being English and we have a source to back this up. Therfore it seems clumsy and wrong to describe her as an irish born english singer. It should state she is and english singer who was born in ireland, as have sources to back that up. We have no sources to back up the assertion she is irish. She is an english singer who happens to have been born in dublin, but describes herself as english not irish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.189.88 (talk) 13:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Now it states that she was born in Harrow! Whether she is English or Irish doesn't change the place of birth. Was Kate Nash born in Dublin or Harrow? Skinsmoke (talk) 01:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I've found several sources that state Harrow and several that state Ireland. Personally, I believe that Ireland is correct, as it is quite uncommon for an English singer to be born in Ireland, so if there are several sources saying Ireland, it's more likely to be true. KateNash01 (talk) 14:42, 08 August 2008 (UTC)

There are no proper sources to say she was born in Ireland. There are now lots of pages on the internet that claim she was born in Dublin, because they are based on an old version of this article! I don't believe there are any examples of any reputable media stating that she was born in Dublin, or anywhere other than London. The perception of her being born in Dublin have come from people vandalising this page. 92.12.247.231 (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

What about MTV? I believe they are quite reliable. KateNash01 (talk) 17:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It's quite obvious that these MTV profiles are based on Wikipedia entries. That is far from reliable. There are no proper reliable sources that claim she was born in Dublin - please stop inserting this into the article. 92.13.50.152 (talk) 16:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just as a point of interest I have spoken to the person that runs what is probably the best Kate Nash site out there (including the official site) and she has her listed as being born in Ireland. I asked her was this true and was informed that this information was provided by a member of her family. While obviously not proof, I believe this person and her bio of Kate is not lifted from Wikipedia. I suppose that although I believe she was born in Dublin the point I'm making is that while I have not seen a believable source on the web to say she was born in Dublin, I have also not seen a believable source to saw she was born in Harrow. Maybe place of birth should be listed as unknown? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.55.91 (talk) 22:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

There's already a trustworthy reference for her birth place in the article. If she was indeed born in Dublin, I'm sure it would be a well known fact. As a sidenote, I Googled "Kate Nash" and the only fansite I found that mentioned any birth details were a direct copy of this Wikipedia article. 92.12.127.34 (talk) 18:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I was having a look and I can't actually see a reference in Ref 4. I might be just missing it. I can see a reference in Ref 5 but it's not an actual quote from Kate Nash from what I can see. It is simply the reporters view which includes an interview with Kate in which she herself doesn't state her place of birth. It could have been as easily taken from Wikipedia as any other article. The article here http://www.gigwise.com/contents.asp?contentid=32900 has as much credence. Just regarding the above mentioned fansite. It is http://katenash.fan-sites.org/bio.php and from what I can see I wasn't lifted from Wikipedia or if it was,then it was reworded. I'm not looking to start a flame or anything here. I am just trying to find a quote or interview from Kate or one of her relatives stating place of birth. It is annoying that no interviewer has asked her about this basic fact! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanryan10 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

The sixth (unsigned) comment in this section is spot on. She has an English accent. The clue there is in the word 'English' - it means 'from England'. It signifies an English upbringing and acculturation. Sorry if this is stating the obvious but birthplace does not determine national identity.

A full half of U2's members are English born of non-Irish parents but you never, ever hear them described as anything but an Irish band. Which is fair enough - but what's good fot the goose is good for the gander. There seems to be a much greater general readiness to question/dispute the national identity of English people than of people of almost any other nationality. This should be resisted.Shiresman (talk) 22:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more. She is English. I'm sure she has probably even mentioned it in an interview. Although the title of this discussion is "Is Kate from Ireland or England?" I don't think the question in the title refers to where she is based, where she lives or where she calls home. I think it refers to the question of her place of birth. I could be wrong...but it is quite obvious she is English and establishing this does not require a discussion of this length. Are there any references to her place of birth? Not references to her being English or Irish...or anything else for that matter. There is a section in her bio to enter place of birth and placing Harrow or London in here just because she is English doesn't make it correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanryan10 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

According to the register of births, marriages and deaths her birth was registered in Brent, Middlesex in July 1987. The birth must be registered in the district in which it took place. This can be viewed at www.ancestry.co.uk. Although it is a subscription site, it is possible to view the record by registering for a free 14 day trial. To be pedantic, she is British.--Goonerak (talk) 21:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Her birth was registered in the London Borough of Brent in July 1987. It has long been the case that births in England and Wales have to be registered in the borough they occurred in, no more than six weeks after the event. I've corrected the article accordingly, adding a link to findmypast.com, which lists all births registered in England and Wales from 1984-2006. Anyone can view said records, at any time, for free. Werdnawerdna (talk) 01:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone have any evidence of her being, in any sense, Irish? We know for sure she was born in Brent. The article has the English people of Irish descent category, but the article does not state anything about her ancestry. Are both her parents from Ireland? Does she hold British and Irish citizenship? F W Nietzsche (talk) 06:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

From what I know her mother is Irish (Dublin) while her father is English. As I understand it she has many Irish relatives. There were many biogs of her on line mentioning her place of birth as Dublin. Most of these took their information from an earlier version of this article which I believe was incorrect. I would be happy with the above information on her birth being registered in Brent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.245.206 (talk) 21:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Kate Nash was definitely born in Brent, Greater London. It says so www.ancestry.co.uk which is much more accurate than some music website. I'm changing it now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.80.135.84 (talk) 20:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Kate Nash was born at the maternity ward of Northwick Park Hospital which is about 1/2 mile from Harrow town centre but is just across the boundary in the London Borough of Brent. Therefore the register of birth deaths and marriages shows her as being born in Brent. Unfortunately this register is not a free resource so cannot be used as an official Wikipedia reference. At the time of her birth her parents home was in Harrow (Greater London)and that is where Kate lived immediately on discharge from the hospital. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.99.0 (talk) 10:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Shirley Bassey collaboration
"Leaning On a Lamppost (Shirley Bassey ft. Kate Nash)"

Can anybody confirm this, please? A duet with Shirley Bassey doesn't seem very likely, and I have not seen anything of it reported. I added a "citation needed" tag to the article but felt it wasn't appropriate so removed it. Is there a tag I'm supposed to use in this case? -- Torika (talk) 19:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Ryan Jarman
i previously edited this page to say she's going out with Ryan Jarman. She is, so why has it been deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.87.73 (talk) 17:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's been deleted again. It needs to be sourced. -- neon white user page talk 18:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia and Robbie Williams
Anyone else troubled by this section:
 * On January 15 2008, Nash responded to reports on Wikipedia that she had covered songs made famous by Robbie Williams. She told Spinner magazine, "I'd never do that. Ever. Badly manufactured pop is why I wouldn't want to cover Robbie Williams' songs. In my eyes, it's just a totally different world from what I know. I'm just not really interested in it."

The reference cited (http://www.channel4.com/music/musicnews/kate-nash-never-copy-robbie-williams.213.html) does quote Nash saying Wikipedia was a source for such a comment.

My first issue is that I don't think it's notable. But setting that aside for the moment and assuming it is notable, shouldn't the section avoid describing Wikipedia as "reporting" she covers so-and-so as if it were a gossip column and instead describe the circumstances that surround the abuse of Wikipedia she was referring to? It could do so along the lines of Controversy over Wikipedia's biography of John Seigenthaler Sr. As we all know, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a source of original research, so having a section here about  "reports on Wikipedia" is a bad thing. 68.165.76.203 (talk) 04:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC).


 * Other than the blatent hypocrisy in her words which is not for me to comment on, i agree and i don't think it's that important. However note that notability guidelines do not limit article content but refer to the subject of articles themselves. -- neon white user page talk 16:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

LP release
"On December 24th 2007, Nash released her platinum debut album on a strictly limited 300 LP "

Can anyone confirm this? I know it was definately slated for release as a few independent record stores listed it as coming soon but I do not remember seeing it sold anywhere and I have never seen it on ebay or rarities sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barmybarney (talk • contribs) 19:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Heart disease
We know Kate had surgery when she was 18 on her heart. I was wondering if this information was nessersary to put in the article or not. - KateNash01 —Preceding unsigned comment added by KateNash01 (talk • contribs) 06:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a biography and that is an obvious major life event so it should be in. Unlike this articles most Wikipedia articles on musicians have some sort of personal life section to put that sort of thing in Edkollin (talk) 07:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Oxegen image
This article may be enhanced by one of my images located at Oxegen 2008. The image in question shows her on stage with a colourful set and her name in the background. --➨♀♂ Candlewicke STundefined 12:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Is Kate Nash her birth name?
I just came across this site which lists Kates birth name as Germaine Haribo Nash. Is this in fact her real birth name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanryan10 (talk • contribs) 03:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * She was born Kate Marie Nash in 1987, in the London Borough of Brent, England. An official index of births proves it: Births England and Wales 1984-2006.

Birthplace
Where is Kate Nash's place of birth? Everytime i look at this article it changes between Dublin and London, i have no idea who's right or wrong, if i have knew conclusively where she was born i would be able to revert these silly edits.PhilOak (talk) 01:22, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

As per the references - She was born in London. Some idiot repeatedly keeps changing it to Dublin despite there never having been a legitimate source for it. Any low rent websites stating Dublin as her birthplace is info copied and pasted off Wikipedia when the false birth details have been in place. Groupblues884 (talk) 23:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Isn't allmusic.com supposed to be a decent reference? Or do they copy from Wiki too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.34.193.177 (talk) 08:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Most the Google hits I can find seem to give her birth as Dublin, with a few giving London - the article doesn't actually give a reference for her birthplace. A couple of the references do say she was born in London, but I'm not sure they're any more reliable than the Google hits that say she was born in Dublin. Her own site has no biog details. Can anyone find a definitive source? -- Boing!   said Zebedee  11:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Births have to be registered in the area they occur, which in her case was the London Borough of Brent, as the birth index states. Jim Michael (talk) 17:07, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Vandals still adding text pretending she is Irish and born in Dublin, despite referenced quotes from Nash herself that she is English and born in London? Is this place for real? Why isn't this page protected?

Littleone77 (talk) 20:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Gold status of "Made of Bricks" in Germany
The delayed chart success of "Made of Brick" (almost 3 years delay) make it obvious that it is connected with the use of two of her songs (Foundation and Mouthwash) by Lena Meyer-Landrut. But I'm missing this connection here and/or in Made of Bricks beside the significance for the late commercial success. I would suggest to add a reference or note. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.174.140.43 (talk) 11:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Interview with Kate
I added the link to my interview with Kate Nash, but it was removed. Why is that? I see external links to the photos, why is this different then that? or should i add it to the references?

Please let me know.

Thank you!

Album delays
Is there any given reason why it took 3 years for Kate to release her 2nd album? And 3 years for her next? This seems somewhat extreme for a new artist. Certainly established artists can leave that long having built a fanbase already, but 3 years for a second album? Certainly it seems to have been the death-knell in her career. First album No.1, 2nd album No.8 (remaining on the charts for a paltry 3 weeks) and third album? No.85. Seems like she threw her career away.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 14:20, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * A 3-year gap between albums is not all that unusual these days. For example, Adele (2008, 2011, 2015), Lily Allen (2006, 2009, 2014), Bat For Lashes (2006, 2009, 2012, 2016), or Ed Sheeran (2011, 2014, 2017).  After releasing and promoting an album the artist will probably spend about 18 months touring, so there is seldom less than a 2-year gap.109.148.246.94 (talk) 13:30, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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