Talk:Kaufering concentration camp complex

Removal of non-NPOV section regarding depiction in "Band of Brothers"
Edit Revision as of 23:10, 30 January 2015 by 74.79.254.133 does not represent NPOV, and is contrary to primary historical references, viz. "A reconstruction of the camp was shown in the "Why We Fight" episode of Band of Brothers. But the camp was not liberated by the 101st Airborne as shown in the movie. Actually, it was not "liberated" at all because the SS had fled before US troops arrived. The American troops encountered only a very few prisoners wandering around in the vicinity of the abandoned camp." By that reckoning, none of the Nazi concentration camps were "liberated", as almost all SS and Wehrmacht guards left concentration camps in advance of the arrival of Allied troops. According to the U.S. Holocaust Museum and the United State Center for Military History {http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10006170}, Kaufering was liberated by the 12th Armored Division, and according to the Europäische Holocaustgedenkstätte Stiftung (European Holocaust Memorial Foundation), Capt. John Paul Jones of the 134th Ord Maint Bn led a group salvaging armored vehicles when they came across the camp. Edited statement also described what is in the movie, not what occurred when the camp was liberated, so that description does not belong in this article. Text pertaining to Kaufering Camp edited and references added. Barry Eagel (talk) 23:43, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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Wording
In the article it says "but none were produced at the camps before the United States Army liberated the area.". Does it make sense to talk about the area being liberated? It was a part of Germany, surely it doesn't make sense to call it being liberated, that implies the territory was occupied by Nazi Germany which certainly wasn't the case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:7A80:8C80:9000:CDD4:3003:E594:65FA (talk) 06:13, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I understand that liberate is often taken to mean deposing an illegitimately controlled territory, but in essence, the word means "to set free from imprisonment, slavery, or oppression." So I think that even territories indisputably part of Germany can be "liberated" since the people within them were oppressed, especially in the context of a concentration camp. Ypna (talk) 12:08, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

New website about "Kaufering concentration camp complex ": www.landsberg-kaufering-erinnern.de/en
Here you'll find much information: www.landsberg-kaufering-erinnern.de/en, all in english, too. There seems to be no author, responsible are the cities of Landsberg and Kaufering. The numbers of prisoners and deaths there are not the known of the science, but lower. And the name isn't the name of the science or history, but "Landsberg/Kaufering" – maybe that's political. The other facts seem to be okay, many facts new published on internet, some references, too. Maybe most of the informations are from the Dachau Concentration Camp Memorial Site, but we don't know. Maps and references are helpful. For information, you should click on the "index" on the top, then you'll see a large list of articles. Treck08 (talk) 18:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I've added it to the external links, but I would avoid citing it in this article. Especially for this topic highly credible sources such as peer-reviewed articles and books are preferred. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  19:43, 25 September 2021 (UTC)


 * In the meantime I've seen you are absolutely right. At some of the informations there are avoidable mistakes, false quotations, e.g. the mass graves at Kaufering-Nord & -Süd (missing ″each″), or the false quotation of the inscription on the monument at Kaufering-Süd (missing ″Davids Stern″, and original it's german, not hebrew). Such mistakes are absolutely avoidable. So, it's for a first impression, for some pictures, some new aspects, only a base for further reading. The mistakes are the same in the english and the german version, I don't know how many there are. Maybe that's the reason, why they don't name an author. But it's the best website of the german government for this topic. --Treck08 (talk) 15:44, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Schwangerenkommando

 * "A group of seven Hungarian Jewish women, known as the "Schwangerenkommando" (pregnancy unit), who had conceived before their deportation to Auschwitz, was allowed to remain alive and bear their children."

This absurd fact is mentioned in the article but not further explained, as though it were an ordinary detail. It is a stark contradiction to allow Jewish births in a system designed to eliminate Jews, and surely this was not standard practice. Judging by the liberation photograph, they were not emaciated either. It leaves the reader curious – why was this allowed? Ypna (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't know, it may say more in the cited source. The ushmm encyclopedia is free access. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)