Talk:Koca Sinan Pasha

POV
This paragraph strikes me as extremely POV, and I've accordingly removed it (except the note about leaving a large fortune):

''Bold, overbearing and unscrupulous, Sinan recoiled from no baseness to put a rival out of the way; while his insolence was not confined to foreign ambassadors, but was exercised towards his opponents in the sultans presence. He had a barbarous hatred not only for Christians but for all civilization. The immense fortune which he left is a proof of his rapacity.''

He very well may have been greedy, barbrous, unscrupulous, insolent, etc., but I think we ought to cite specific evidence (or at least a more neutral source) before including those judgments in the article. Did everyone hate this man so, or only the Christian editors of 1911? --Dvyost 16:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

hello...
guys...There is information about the wrong name....Karamanlı Sinan Paşa not albanian people...karaman old turk state and dynasty... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karamanids

Sinan Pasha maybe birthplace of Albania...But he not albanian :)

This is only an example...spolia re-employed many of the Ottoman...but not all :)

Sorry bad english...:) Translate :) 78.183.33.213 (talk) 01:03, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

"The previous version is faulty with false conclusions"?
Zoupan Explain why according to you "The previous version is faulty with false conclusions"? Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Because the conclusions made are not mirroring those reliably sourced. You either use the sources, or not.--Z oupan 22:04, 12 January 2017 (UTC)  Blocked sock:Ajdebre.
 * First of all you have three revisions not me so only you have edit warred until now. Koca Sinan Pasha was of Albanian origin.

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 * Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:19, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
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 * Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:23, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * We need more than mentions in passing. The stable revision includes elaboration on the matter .--Z oupan 00:54, 13 January 2017 (UTC)  Blocked sock:Ajdebre.
 * Since there are no sources to put his origin on question then we do not need " elaboration on the matter ". The stable version is that before you changed half of article. WP:I don't like it is not an argument. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:17, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You don't like it. Read the referenced material.--Z oupan 07:06, 28 February 2017 (UTC)  Blocked sock:Ajdebre.