Talk:Kondō Isami

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Anyone wishes to edit the article on Kondo should make sure that the information is not a hearsay by doing sufficient research on either Kondo or the Shinsengumi. Please watch out, there are very few non-Japanese websites providing all correct information. Do not take all information on personal websites as facts.Seven 16:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

A few notes
1. I've got one source saying that Kondo Isami's grandson was killed in the First Sino–Japanese War (1894-1895) and 2 sources saying that he was killed in the Russo-Japanese war (1904-1905.) According to Romulus Hillsborough's Shinsengumi : the Shogun's Last Samurai Corps, Kondo Isami's only grandson, Kondo Hisataro,  was killed in the Russo-Japanese War. Seven

2. Since the first, the second and the third generation masters of Tennen Rishin-ryu each adopted a student with superb skills to be the next master,  there was NO "Kondo bloodline" to be ended. Seven

3. Kondo was born Miyagawa Katsugoro (宮川勝五郎). Seven 16:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Shinsengumi: The Shogun's Last Samurai Corps
TOSA played a major part in the execution of Kondo (Kondou) Isami (Isamu) based on wrong information. Please see Hillsborough, Romulus. Shinsengumi: The Shogun's Last Samurai Corps. Tuttle Publishing ISBN: 0804836272 page 161.

Tani Tateki OF TOSA even in his own words will reveal many things to you 144.92.184.2


 * According to Tani Tateki, Kondo was properly executed by the new government as a result of being accused of the murder of Sakamoto and even after Imai Nobuo's confession in 1870, Tani insisted that Kondo was not falsely accused for Sakamoto's murder. Seven 06:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Kotestu
it is debatable whether Kondo owned the real Kotestu. Seven 05:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Removed text
I removed the unreferenced, questionable text "It is well known that Kondō was able to place his entire fist inside his mouth and did this frequently to impress others." from the article. Fg2 07:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Please use next time.


 * It is true that Kondō was able to place his entire fist inside his mouth. I'm not sure whether he did this frequently to impress others though. Seven 11:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ōishi Manabu, Shinsengumi, page 26, supports this fact; Kondo did "often" (according to Oishi) put his fist in his mouth, though it doesn't say he did it to impress others. Even so, at least we have a textual citation. -Tadakuni (talk) 17:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Is it important enough to put in an encyclopedia? It might have a place in a full-length biography, but a in a page-length article it seems awfully trivial. Fg2 (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I must say I have to agree with you. -Tadakuni (talk) 18:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I also agree.  However, if we deleted it, someone else might feel compelled to add it back in again later. Whether it's important enough or not varies in opinions. Seven (talk) 16:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for agreeing it's trivia. I've deleted it again. Fg2 (talk) 22:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)