Talk:Kyūjō incident

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 15:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Background section
I tried to improve this section, and the top section above it, by correcting the grammar, but there are a few places where I don't know what the author meant. I put tags in those places.

Also, I tried to fix/remove some of the broken wiki links, and removed 2nd, 3rd, etc. occurrences of good links. Joeblow179350 (talk) 18:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Tie-in with "The Last Mission"?
The 2003 History Channel documentary, "The Last Mission," asserts that an allied air strike on August 14 unwittingly helped doom the coup attempt by causing a blackout in Tokyo (thus hampering the search for the hidden recording of the emperor's message). Is this claim generally accepted? It seems to me that it ought to be mentioned in this article, with whatever sources can be found. Even if the link to the air strike is not accepted by historians, it might still be worth mentioning (along with sources downplaying or debunking it). Richwales (talk) 19:34, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Poor translation in the last two sections
The final section, dealing withn the death of Mori, should be rewritten by someone familiar with the events. The current version includes inaccurate verbs and tenses. I rewrote "August 14" a bit for the same reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.117.249 (talk) 00:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Reference "The Pacific War Research Society"
Is there any possibility that the reference "The Pacific War Research Society" could be this book: The Pacific War Research Society, Japan's Longest Day ISBN13:978-4770028877, ISBN10:4770028873 - I've shortly checked page 283 (referenced in the article) with the Amazon "Look inside" and it seems to be this book. It would be really helpful if an owner of this book could check whether this is true. Lukaito (talk) 07:34, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Reference "Frank"
Is there any possibility that the reference "Frank" could be this book: Richard B. Frank, Downfall: The End of the Imperial Japanese Empire ISBN13:978-0141001463, ISBN10:0141001461 - I've shortly checked page 319 (referenced in the article) with the Amazon "Look inside" and it seems to be this book. It would be really helpful if an owner of this book could check whether this is true. Lukaito (talk) 07:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Reference "Wainstock"
Is there any possibility that the reference "Wainstock" could be this book: Dennis D. Wainstock, The Decision to Drop the Atomic Bomb ISBN13:978-0275954758, ISBN10:0275954757 - I've shortly checked page 115 (referenced in the article) with the Amazon "Look inside" and it seems to be this book. It would be really helpful if an owner of this book could check whether this is true. Lukaito (talk) 07:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Reference "Hasegawa"
Is there any possibility that the reference "Hasegawa" could be this book: Tsuyoshi Hasegawa, Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan ISBN13:978-0674016934, ISBN10:0674016939- I've shortly checked page 247 (referenced in the article) with the Amazon "Look inside" and it seems to be this book. It would be really helpful if an owner of this book could check whether this is true. Lukaito (talk) 08:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * True.--Brian Dell (talk) 06:10, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Reference "Butow"
Is there any possibility that the reference "Butow" could be this book: Robert J. C. Butow, Japan's Decision to Surrender ISBN13:978-0804704601, ISBN10:0804704600 - This book is already referenced in reference-point 10 of the article. I couldn't check the content on any source, so it's just an assumption! It would be really helpful if an owner of this book could check whether the reference is this book. Lukaito (talk) 08:16, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Significance
It's too bad there are so many people on Wikipedia opposed to sensible edits that can't be tied to some outside source, and that the talk page is about improving the article and not general discussion of the topic. This part:

>...proposed that all senior officers present sign an agreement to carry out the emperor's order of surrender—"The Army will act in accordance with the Imperial Decision to the last." It was signed by all the high-ranking officers present...

Based on this English translation of what reportedly happened, what was important about this was that they were agreeing that the emperor's command was likely to lead to the end of the army. All present agreed that Japan's defeat in the war was significant. The victorious nations did not abolish their armed forces after the war; Japan did, and now only has self-defense forces. Sometimes after a nation does something, like start a war or elect a leader who later turns out to be unpopular, people will say they never wanted that thing to happen anyway; the military officers here were agreeing to the end of Japan's military. In effect 'the military' was committing suicide, the same way that several officers involved in the events on this page did. 23.121.191.18 (talk) 08:59, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

The main question...
...remains unanswered: where was the emperor all this time?Mazarin07 (talk) 16:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Still not in either article. Rmhermen (talk) 20:35, 19 September 2019 (UTC)