Talk:La Masia/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Please use T:AH to organize the talk page so I can understand the concerns of the prior reviewers. I think I see about three prior peer reviews and an official copy edit. I want to make sure I have an understanding of what the past issues have been.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If the reason that this has not been done is because you are unfamiliar with the template and unable to convert the talk page yourself let me know.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Gimmebot does that sometimes, I don't know how to. Sandman888 (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * O.K. I will do it myself in the next day or two and then begin the review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I just formatted it. I will look through the issues and start commenting in the next couple of days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Opening comments:
 * General
 * Remove spaces preceding references or between adjacent references. --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Only found one, please let me know if there are more. Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


 * LEAD
 * Barcelona's success is ambiguous to me. Did the youth academy lead to success by the city or the team? --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Clearer now? Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


 * History
 * It seems to me that La Liga should have a link.
 * Done Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there no history between 1988 and 2007?
 * Not very much I'm afraid, most focuses on the recent success of Barcelona and Spain. Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand this sentence: "The success of La Masia as a talent school has been ascribed by Ian Hawkey of The Times " and why isn't The Times linked?
 * Is it better now? Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand the choice of the word ascribed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Link some of these regions since many english speakers are not familiar with regions of Spain: About half of them were from Catalonia, and the rest came from other regions of the Kingdom of Spain and beyond, including 15 from Cameroon, 7 from Brazil, 5 from Senegal and 3 from Argentina. Of those 500, about 10 percent made it into the first team .--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * All linked Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Organisation
 * You talk about the cost, but don't mention a tuition cost to the players.
 * comprise should probably be "are comprised of"
 * Is there a link for "2009 10 season"--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Checklist

 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * This article is quite deficient in terms of covering the history.
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * I am not so sure about the licensing of File:Masia-AmorFerrerMussonsGuardiola.jpg
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * Because of my concerns about the history, I am requesting a second opinion.
 * I am not so sure about the licensing of File:Masia-AmorFerrerMussonsGuardiola.jpg
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * Because of my concerns about the history, I am requesting a second opinion.

2nd opinion

 * Short of listing all of the players who graduated through the academy in the seven years between 1990 and 2007, I don't think that is a particular problem to have this "gap".
 * The word ascribe is a synonym of attribute, see ascribe. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The image File:Masia-AmorFerrerMussonsGuardiola.jpg. Tony asked me to look at the licensing. The license is definitely wrong. This is a photograph of a photograph, so the copyright belongs to the original photographer. I have nominated it for deletion at Commons, but it might be OK on English Wikipedia with a suitable fair use rationale. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This article is on hold awaiting final responses from the editor.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you for the reviews. I've removed imaged and replaced ascribed with the synonym. Sandman888 (talk) 09:08, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I am now satisfied and am passing this article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:10, 14 October 2010 (UTC)