Talk:Lady Annabel Goldsmith

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.--Counter-revolutionary 15:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC) P.s. I don't know why it displays like this. Someone fix it. --Counter-revolutionary 15:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Clearly notable. Aristocrat, socialite, author &c., &c.  Countless References -
 * fixed-- Beloved freak  20:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

This surprisingly long and detailed article has an air of self-promotion about it. I suggest Wikipedians keep an eye on it. 93.96.236.8 (talk) 14:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I can't see any point in this article at all. What are her merits? Her achievements? Her importance?

--93.196.169.133 (talk) 12:38, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Private Eye
I don't see a problem with the Private Eye reference (which I've reverted), since it (a) merely summarizes an article already published in Private Eye; no new claims are made in this article; (b) the Private Eye article is clearly satirical and thus exempt from libel (and even if it weren't, I doubt summarizing the article here could constitute libel). 93.96.236.8 (talk) 21:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The source and information fails WP:BLP. WP:BLP requires high-quality sources.  It also requires information meet all other Wikipedia policies.  The information is trivia, unworthy of mention in an encyclopedia article. --Ronz (talk) 21:24, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. The Private Eye article does not present factual information, it is satirical and so factual accuracy of it (as required for sources of biographical information) is irrelevant. Your suggestion that it is 'trivia' seems to suggest that there should be no mentions of satire anywhere on Wikipedia; yet there are plenty. Finally, why is her memoir any less trivial than Private Eye's satire of it? What is so noteworthy about some worthless socialite's worthless reminiscences about her unpleasant acquaintances (the point that was being made by the Private Eye article)? 93.96.236.8 (talk) 12:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Furthermore the article is full of trivia which you have not deleted. A few quick examples: 'She was named after her mother's favourite song, "Miss Annabel Lee"'. 'She has referred to herself as "an incredible mother, rather a good mistress, but not a very good wife"'. 'In 2003, she remarked on her children's varied marital patterns by observing, "All my children with James marry young and breed, and my children with Mark do the opposite."' There are loads more examples. (Actually the more I look at this article I wonder who wrote most of it and why; the amount of self-indulgent detail quite disproportionate to the (un)importance of this person is rather suspicious. I strongly suspect it has mostly been written by her, a relative, a friend, her agent and/or her publisher.) 93.96.236.8 (talk) 12:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I am in the process of addressing the BLP problems with this article. Please stop adding to them, justifying it by stating more problems exist. --Ronz (talk) 16:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Lady Annabel Goldsmith → Annabel Goldsmith – Per naming conventions, we neither have "Sir" nor "Lady" in article title. -- bender235 (talk) 10:45, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose Naming conventions allow it - see Category:Daughters of British marquesses for many such cases. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Yup, when the Lord or Lady has their title because they are the child of a peer and that's the name they commonly use then the use in the article title is allowed by naming conventions. See Naming conventions (royalty and nobility), point #5. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose Title & name by which she's best known. FactStraight (talk) 02:35, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The wife and ex-wife of two unfaithful men
That is a rather euphemistic description of a woman who cheated on the one with the other.

--93.196.169.133 (talk) 12:40, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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