Talk:Landline

Don't merge
I looked up the term landline to make sure it exists in the English language and that I used it correctly. Nothing wrong with you Encyclopedia doubling as a Dictionary, Webster has been doing it for years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awjkok (talk • contribs) 23 July 2006

Merge
This page is effectively a disambig and should not be merged.mgekelly 02:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Something isn't right. I was lead here thanks to a reference to the ABC Australia's "Landline" TV programme as shown on ABC2.  Is there a problem? Definetly.  -Daniel Blanchette 01:52, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge under the title landline with redirect from fixed phone and a ref should be made within the article to Voip too as many subscribers now using this as a landline (it's still connected by wires isn't it?)....Zir 13:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Just found that there's a redirect to landline already from fixed line - so I rest my case...Zir 13:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge to POTS

 * Oppose. A landline doesn't have to be POTS.  There are T1 and other T-carrier lines, Optical Carrier landlines, coax TV lines, etc. — DragonHawk (talk|hist) 03:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. In adition a pots port does not have to be landline - A wirless (e.g. HSDPA) internet connection could have a router with 'voip to pots' ports connected to it with say a DECT phone plugged in to one of those.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.119.35.95 (talk) 07:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Not interchangeable as a land line and a POTS are not necessarily one in the same (see above). ⒺⓋⒾ ⓁⒼⓄ ⒽⒶⓃ ②  talk 13:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just as an added note, I move for a speedy close to this as there was not even an argument provided as to why the merger should take place, nor has there been any significant debate on the matter, and the only arguments presented are those against. ⒺⓋⒾ ⓁⒼⓄ ⒽⒶⓃ ②  talk 13:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah. Tags removed.  I was willing to discuss, but since nobody has discussed, it's time to remove the tag.  If someone wants to discuss further, they can always come here and do so.  :)  — DragonHawk (talk|hist) 17:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Same reasons as before (above). — Dgtsyb (talk) 08:40, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. The article essentially only talks about fixed-line phones, which is the same as POTS. There is a dedicated lines section, but that's even introduced as another (less common) meaning and whose terminology section is incomprehensible (seen the more popular use [which is?] as a misuse of the word. As a consequence, in professional contexts the terms "fixed line" or "wireline" are more commonly used than "landline" [to mean what?]). The article does not talk about T1 and other T-carrier lines, Optical Carrier landlines, coax TV, etc. The article even says and said that the current meaning is fixed-line phone vs. mobile phone. The article needs a complete rewrite and probably a split into different articles if it is to be about more than the most common current meaning, fixed-line phones. See also comment by expert on POTS talk: "[POTS is] pretty much the one and only term used between telecom people for a traditional phone line in the U.S." --Espoo (talk) 10:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose for the same reasons as before: A landline doesn't have to be POTS. There are T1 and other T-carrier lines, Optical Carrier landlines, coax TV lines, etc.  If some content in this article better belongs at Plain old telephone service or elsewhere, go ahead and move it there.  If needed, this article can even revert to stub status.  But any which way you slice it, merge is not the proper response to "poor quality". — DragonHawk (talk|hist) 18:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Question from 75.88.196.35
I have a phone that is not mobile and I have a home phone that is cordless. Are they both considered to be landlines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.88.196.35 (talk) 19:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

landlines
If you have a cordless home phone and a non-mobile home phone, are they both considered to be landlines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.88.196.35 (talk) 19:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes they are🤗 Lethulake (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

cordless phone a land line?
Yes and no. A true land line phone is one that is completely connected by wire. you can recognize these by their not going off when the power goes out (unless, of course, they are also answering machines, which take electricity to run). Cordless phones, although connected to the land line still go out when the power is off. Also, as stated in the article, a land line must be physically accessed to record or intercept messages. This is NOT true with cordless phones. They still transmit signals via the airwaves to the receiver of the phone and can be intercepted using the right frequencies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.220.88.187 (talk) 14:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Line vs handset? Term 'cordless' is used for wireless landline handsets, but are still in essence landlines. Point being the end user is providing the wireless infrastructure to their end of the landline, terminated by the the telecoms provider.—IncidentFlux [ TalkBack 15:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

German interwiki link to Festnetz isn't correct
Please do not revert the interwiki link to German Festnetz. As I understand the description in the article and as well the correct translation to German, then it is more the phone and/or the connection to the exchange network and not the network itself. In this way it should redirect to the German synonym Festnetzanschluss. 194.113.59.80 (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC) i.e. Andys


 * The English term seems ambiguous in usage, and may refer both to the PSTN and the landline connection. Thus, both interwiki links seem valid. Nageh (talk) 18:22, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Disconnect
i don't know if this is still true butwhen you used to ring from a landline on the caller coud disconnect. is this still the case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.135.36.56 (talk) 12:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Globalize
The examples in the section "Decline of the landline phone" refer to America data without saying so.

The section "Landline obsolete in baseball" is, in my opinion, too trivial to include in this article.

The section "Impact of declining landline use" claims: "With a mobile phone, the owner is the one who pays for the call whether it's an incoming or outgoing." This might be true for the US, but not for most of the world. Teemu Leisti (talk) 10:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

The Landline Telephone has improved communication
The telephone itself has provided us with instant communication and it has been extremely helpful over the years. I know that i have been saying that the invention of the landline telephone has had a negative effect on communication but there are also many benefits that have come to this invention and i think that that is worth mentioning. Yes, communication styles have changed since this invention, but they are both good and bad styles. A study done by ANA shows that, "Researchers who have examined interventions utilized to reduce missed appointments in primary care have proposed solutions such as educating patients about the importance of attending appointments, reminding patients of appointments by phone calls" [3]. Recorded by Ithiel de Sola Pool in his 1983 book "Forecasting the Telephone," people told what they thought the future of the telephone looked like. They said things a long the lines of, " cause the postal service to lose business; open up new job opportunities; allow more public feedback; make the world smaller, increasing contact between peoples of all nations and thus fostering world peace; be an aid for physicians, police, fire, and emergency workers; be a valuable tool for journalists; bring people closer together, decreasing loneliness and building new communities; inspire a decline in the art of writing; have an impact on language patterns and introduce new words; and someday lead to an advanced form of the transmission of intelligence" [4]. A lot of these things are true, and have been very helpful since the invention of the landline telephone. There are many benefits in communication since this invention.

[3] Cibulka, N., Fischer, H., Fischer, A., (March 26, 2012) "Improving Communication With Low-Income Women Using Today’s Technology" OJIN: The Online Journal of Issues in Nursing Vol. 17 No. 2.http://nursingworld.org/MainMenuCategories/ANAMarketplace/ANAPeriodicals/OJIN/TableofContents/Vol-17-2012/No2-May-2012/Articles-Previous-Topics/Communication-With-Low-Income-Women-and-Technology.html

[4] "Imagining the Internet." Imagining the Internet. Elon University School of Communications, n.d. Web. 11 June 2014. http://www.elon.edu/e-web/predictions/150/1870.xhtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.162.53.38 (talk) 20:09, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Concern about discussion of Verizon in this article
Hello, I'm an employee of Verizon and here on Wikipedia to draw attention to what I think are inaccuracies or problems related to discussion of the company. Because of my financial conflict of interest, I don't make any edits myself. I simply point out the issues on Talk pages, and ask volunteer editors to review what I've proposed and, if my suggestions seem reasonable, implement them.

I'm posting here because "The downside" section begins with two unsourced sentences: "After Hurricane Sandy, Verizon refused to install landline copper wire in Mantoloking, NJ because of its high cost. Instead, Verizon proposed to install Verizon Link, which is a wireless home phone system that does not require the phone to be connected to landline copper wire, but instead receives its signal from the towers." The section then goes on to talk about potential issues with transitioning from landlines to wireless.

Why specifically call out Verizon in this context, when only a small part of Verizon's business relates to copper landlines? There's nothing surprising in a mostly wireless company transitioning its customers to wireless technology.

If other editors agree, could someone please remove the two sentences so that this section focuses on landlines more generally, and not a specific case of Verizon transitioning customers from landlines to wireless as an example of a downside?

Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 13:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


 * This has been done. VZBob (talk) 14:07, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Effect of declining landline use on politics
I have added a Failed Verification template to the paragraph about the Impact of declining landline use, because the cited source does not seem to mention anything about the impact of declining landline use "on the political process worldwide", or the use of telephone calls as a method of advertising by politicians. The source is relevant to the article as a whole and should probably be kept, but not for this particular paragraph where it has been cited.

I've also inserted the text "in some cases" to the sentence about mobile phone owners paying for calls. The original statement, without the words "in some cases", is false in my locality. I have marked "in some cases" as vague, because it should state specifically which cases, but without a valid source I do not know what those cases are.

Similarly, I've also marked "this method of advertising" as being vague, because without a valid source I will not guess what the method is. -- 141.163.6.96 (talk) 01:14, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

New section - advantages of landlines over mobile phones?
How about a section on the advantages of landlines over mobile phones? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

I also would like such a section
I have both a landline and a cell phone, and I don't wish to give up either. I'm not on such a tight budget that I can't afford both. I live in an area that may get a major earthquake, and when that happens, I can't rely on watts from my electric utility. The wireline in my neighborhood is powered from an exchange which (I'm almost sure) has a standby generator. Oaklandguy (talk) 04:47, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Different types of landline technology
We should really do a better job in the article explaining the different types of landline technology currently in use. This includes POTS, digital phone technologies designed to be used with traditional POTS telephones such fixed VOIP services like Vonage, digital phone services from companies like AT&T U-verse, Comcast, Cox, Time Warner, etc. This would not include computer, tablet, and smartphone based VOIP services such as Skype. Basically, any type of telephone tech that allows you to use a standard POTS compatible telephone should be mentioned in this article. It doesn't have to be permanently fixed in the way a POTS line is to be a landline, just not as portable as a mobile/cell phone. Vonage, for example, could theoretically be connected to a different internet connection or even cellular data hotspot, making you POTS telephone portable but that's not how it meant to be used so most people would still considered it a landline. --2600:1700:56A0:4680:648B:901:A2BA:CEF3 (talk) 18:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Can't send text messages
Customers help Darrentaylor802 (talk) 08:01, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

home phone?
How is home phone a synonym? Many landlines (and perhpas an increasing proportion of them) are to businees. Kdammers (talk) 09:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)