Talk:Larry Kwong

Contact request
Moving from the main article

( My cousin, Audrey Craven -born in England - was Larry's first wife. They gave their daughter the name Kristina. I would love to know what happened to her. If anyone knows please leave an edit on this page ...info from Penny née Smalley)

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(July 11, 2010) Penny - Larry And Kristina are eager to hear from you. Please see his Facebook Appreciation Page 

In response to the question of neutrality

I am not related to Mr. Kwong. In the last few years I have taken an interest in his story. I have had the privilege of interviewing him in person and by phone. My aim is to present documented facts. I look forward to further contributions by others. Cheers!

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Regarding conflict of interest
According to Kuang (surname), there are 5 million people with variations of the Kuang surname, including Kwong, which may make it more common than Smith. It is not reasonable to assume a family relation between Larry Kwong and user Kingkwong. Given the above statement by user Kingkwong, I have removed the tag. --Big_iron (talk) 03:43, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Length of shift
After correcting an edit that inadvertently had stated his single shift lasted "90 seconds", to read as "less than a minute", which I supported with two sources, it was changed back to say "90 seconds" with another reference that supported that. Clearly, this single shift is significant, and we should aim to get it right. And since references seem to be in dispute, a discussion of their validity should take place. For example, in this New York Times piece, Kwong himself is quoted as saying "about a minute". The Globe and Mail (I'm supplying a cached link to avoid paywall) says "a single minute". Maclean's says "barely a minute". NBC says "60 seconds" in a piece that is entitled "Larry Kwong: The Man and the Minute That Changed the NHL Forever" (emphasis mine). The Smithsonian says "less than a minute". This piece also describes the length as "somewhat less than 60 seconds", and quotes Kwong: "How can you prove yourself in a minute on the ice?" The supplied reference from the Vernon Morning Star says "one 90-second shift".

The only thing all these sources agree upon is that it was a single shift late in the game. Most of them say a minute or less. One says 90 seconds, and perhaps others concur. Consensus on the inclusion of this detail should be reached before re-adding it. Echoedmyron (talk) 17:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I would be hesitant to give a specific time. First, any modern source is going to be questionable as they won't cite how they came up with that number. And if you were to find a contemporary source that lists the time, I'd be skeptical as well, seeing how it was not done officially at all in the era, and thus there is no guarantee to be accurate. It would be best to leave out any specific mentions of time, and just keep it as "one shift". Kaiser matias (talk) 01:45, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

name wrong!
in the name 吳啟光, the surname is "Eng" and the personal name is "Kai Geong". Eng could be rendered Ing, Ng, Nang, or (from mandarin) Wu or Woo; definitely not "Kwong"!!

"Geong", otoh, is often "Kwong" in English. so either his Chinese name is screwed up, and should be "光吳啟" or "光啟吳" (Geong Eng Kai, Geong Kai Eng) or he somehow EMBRACED the "surname" of Kwong after teachers etc mistook the order of his name when presented with "Eng Kai Geong". Personally, the latter sounds more plausible to me; that his real surname is actually "Eng", and "Kwong" is but half of his personal name.

It's like having an article on some Leighton Jones and repeatedly calling him "Mr. Lay". Spelling tweak is within reason, but it's still half of the wrong name. 66.30.47.138 (talk) 10:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Henry Maracle
Henry Maracle played in the NHL before Kwong. It is untrue that Kwong was the first non-white player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D08:7A7E:7D00:DCD2:8FD5:4066:9346 (talk) 20:02, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The main NHL article says: "In 1926, Native American Taffy Abel became the first non-white player in the NHL and broke the league's color barrier by playing for the New York Rangers." Looks like both Abel and Maracle preceded Kwong. 2607:FEA8:3380:2880:9988:7C09:D40C:1B07 (talk) 22:39, 4 November 2023 (UTC)