Talk:LeBreton Flats

Maps
your map shows nothing, at least the photo gives a better impression of scale, your map seems to show the entire eastern ontario triangle
 * The map is a map of OTTAWA with a dot where Lebreton Flats is. -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:04, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

okay, as I thought, useless, your map, as extremely sized, to show Ottawa on a map of Ontario with a tiny pixel for Lebreton is hmmm, let's say a little bit egocentric (I love your map, it's beautiful, lose it)

Current text, as reverted by you: "It is lies to the west" -do you read your work?


 * what are rambling on about? The map is not useless, many Ottawa neighbourhoods have similar maps. -- Earl Andrew - talk 21:18, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Hmm, it's kind of hard to make much sense of it, since it only shows the rivers. Perhaps something that showed main streets, at least, would be more useful for this kind of thing. Dan Carkner 18:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

This map is truely useless--we might as well have a map of all of Ontario with a dot indicating the Flats, and I could say the same for all the Ottawa maps I've looked at so far. Mr Carkner is being overly polite. A better map is required here and elsewhere in the Ottawa section. Buck 08:05, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Lebreton or LeBreton
The article currently spells it "Lebreton", but I notice that Earl Andrew recently added a note to the article that "LeBreton" is an alternate spelling. A quick check of their respective web sites shows that the NCC and the City of Ottawa use the "LeBreton" spelling. What is the correct spelling of the area, and if it is LeBreton, should the article be moved? (LeBreton Flats is currently a redirect) I don't think this issue has come up before -- the article appears to have been using "Lebreton" since it was created in 2005. Skeezix1000 17:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears that the book, An Acre of Time (perhaps the only comprehensive history book on the Flats), spells it "LeBreton". Skeezix1000 17:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Both are frequently used. I think LeBreton is more of an archaic way of spelling it. -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You're right. A Google search shows that both versions are widely used (some sites, like NCC Watch, even appear to indiscriminately switch back and forth between versions).  However, a bit of subsequent research shows that all three levels of government use the LeBreton spelling, the Flats were names after Captain John LeBreton, the official topographical name appears to be LeBreton (see  and ), the media appears to use the LeBreton spelling (see, for example, the Ottawa Citizen, the Ottawa Sun , CBC , the Globe and Mail , and so on...), and the Flats two biggest users (for now), the Canadian War Museum and Bluesfest, use the LeBreton spelling.  Although I initially asked the question "Lebreton or LeBreton" without knowing the answer, I am now inclined to believe that LeBreton is the appropriate and correct spelling, and that the article should be moved (with a notation that "Lebreton" is a common spelling). Skeezix1000 11:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to add: the only "official" use of "Lebreton" that I could find (mind you, I might have missed stuff) was OC Transpo's "Lebreton station". OC Transpo appears to go against the grain.  Skeezix1000 11:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Not exactly! The Sign at Lebreton Station says "LeBreton". -- Earl Andrew - talk 17:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Although this image suggests that some of the OC Transpo signage also says "Lebreton". The inconsistent signage doesn't surprise me, though. Skeezix1000 19:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, that photo doesnt show it, but I know there is a sign that says LeBreton there, as I went to the War Museum on Canada Day and saw it. -- Earl Andrew - talk 20:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't doubt you. What I was saying is that it seems appropriate, given the evident confusion over the spelling, that OC Transpo would have both Lebreton and LeBreton signs. Skeezix1000 20:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think this is generating any controversy, so I will move the article. Skeezix1000 13:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: "In 1820, LeBreton lived at the community of Britannia, Ottawa"
Actually in 1820 LeBreton built some sort of home on his recently acquired OF1 Lot 20 which he bought from Tamer Wright in 1818. He also bought Lot 18. In time the area would become the community of Britannia, but in 1820 it was just LeBreton and no one else on a sizable chunk of land. See here for details.

Also as read the wording seems to suggest that LeBreton overheard Lord Dalhousie in Britannia, which he most certainly did not. Different sources cite different ways in which LeBreton learned of the proposed Rideau Canal, but it certainly wasn't out on his land 15 km from ByTown. You may want to edit the wording to reflect those clarifications.

Neighbourhood or landmark
I don't think it's clear which this article is. It states that 57 people live in Lebreton Flats (2004). The actual flats, I'm guessing because the neighbourhood is quite big. How about dividing the article between Lebreton Flats the physical landmark and Lebreton Flats the neighbourhood. I don't know if separate articles would work because there is so much cross-over, especially now that the flats themselves are being developed and are part of the neighbourhood. TurtleMelody (talk) 09:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

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