Talk:LeRoy Carhart

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I removed this statement from the article :

''Many religious fundamentalists in America have publicly condemned Dr. Carhart for what he does. They claim he is a "child-killer" who stops children from being born out of malice. But Dr. Carhart claims that abortion will occur whether it is legal or not, and that he is only trying to make it safer for women who choose to have an abortion. He and other pro-choice advocates often cite the fact that many experts believe there was a higher rate of abortions before Roe v. Wade.''

it's clearly the opinion of the editor, not encyclopedical.--Revas 20:32, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

I can't find him practicing in Nebraska at all
I was looking for biographical information (sometimes you can get date of birth, etc) on the Nebraska medical board web site, and they have no record of him at all.ChristinaDunigan 00:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Article was not in line with the NPOV
I changed "partial birth abortion" to "Intact dilation and extraction" in the opening paragraph since that is the correct term, nobody uses "partial birth abortion" except abortion critics and opposers, therefore it cannot be considered a neutral term.

Second, I changed the word "killing" to "terminating" since the word "killing" obviously shows bias.

--Whatever. I would commend to you the words of the Immortal Bard. Something about roses and how they smell.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.95.148 (talk) 13:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Changed from "terminate" to "kill"
You can't "terminate" a baby; you kill it. It is only called "termination" when in reference to the pregnancy, not the fetus. Simply incorrect grammer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.60.25 (talk)
 * The conflation of "fetus" and "baby" is typically associated with one side of the abortion debate; it's hardly a "simple", unarguable matter. More to the point, while terminology is always at issue on abortion-related articles, the more sober and non-partisan sources seem to favor words like "termination" over "killing", though I'm happy to be corrected with reference to reliable sources demonstrating otherwise. MastCell Talk 18:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Terminate or Kill
"Terminate" is a verb that is used to signify the end of a process. The fetus is not a process, the pregnancy is a process. The only way you could logically use the "terminate" is by saying "...terminating the life of the fetus." See Oxford's dictoinary entry here http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/terminate?view=uk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.69.231 (talk) 15:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The patient who died
Looking over the article, I'm not sure it's appropriate to discuss the one patient of Carhart's who died after getting an abortion from him. First of all, the medical board found that he was not responsible for the death; secondly, most physicians who do many thousands of major procedures (as Carhart has done) statistically are likely to have at least one patient die under their care simply from random factors, just as a taxi driver who gives enough rides will likely have at least one passenger drop dead of a heart attack during a ride sooner or later. One patient death, which is not the doctor's fault, is simply not a notable fact about a busy long-time big-procedure-oriented physician like Dr. Carhart, who has an outstanding overall safety record. If Carhart were not a high-profile specialist in the controversial field of late-term abortion, with a national following of enemies determined to blacken his name in any possible way, this death would probably not even have been publicized in any notable online news source or in print.

I propose deleting the paragraph about the patient who died. Does anyone have any objection? If you object to deleting this paragraph, please leave a comment here on the TALK page and EXPLAIN your objection. If there are no responses with strong arguments for retaining the paragraph by the end of the week, I will delete it. Goblinshark17 (talk) 18:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

UPDATE: Well, it's the weekend and no one has responded. So I'm deleting the paragraph. It's gone. RIP. Goblinshark17 (talk) 00:59, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

2016: Someone undid this deletion - but I agree that it's still not really noteworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.159.212.50 (talk) 04:17, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

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