Talk:Lech Wałęsa/Archives/2017/March

Leck Wolensa's American name in lead?
what exactly is this? In ictu oculi (talk) 22:51, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It's an alternative pronunciation, as per sources. Oxford uses "Valensa" or "Vawensa". It's sourced - please don't remove again. Dohn joe (talk) 00:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Removed again, please don't add again. What do you think this pronunciation is? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:04, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I see you did this in 2012. Seems you have a long history of trying to insert Lech Wałęsa's "English name" into the article lead. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Would someone else please explain that Merriam-Webster and Oxford are more reliable sources than In ictu oculi. Whether we need pronunciation at all in the lead is one question. But if we do, we should include the pronunciations given by major English-language dictionaries. Dohn joe (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * They aren't accurate for Polish of course not. I see from the archive in 2010 you proposed an RM "Lech Wałęsa → Lech Walesa — Not because either one is better, more correct or more accurate, but because "Lech Walesa" is more common in reliable English-language sources. See WP:UE for choosing between anglicized and local spellings. Dohn joe (talk) 01:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)" In ictu oculi (talk) 01:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Would someone else please explain that Merriam-Webster and Oxford are more reliable sources than In ictu oculi. Whether we need pronunciation at all in the lead is one question. But if we do, we should include the pronunciations given by major English-language dictionaries. Dohn joe (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * is this 3RR? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:38, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * See also Manual_of_Style/Pronunciation: "When a foreign name has a set English pronunciation (or pronunciations), include both the English and foreign-language pronunciations". Please don't revert in contravention of MOS and WP:BURDEN. Dohn joe (talk) 15:55, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Undue Weight
I agree with the note posted Feb 16 that the section on soviet secret police lends undue weight to the subject.

Suggesting the section titled 2008 book be turned into an article under the book's name.

Most of the content under the controversy heading seems like journalistic content, not encyclopedic content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.57.184 (talk) 20:30, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Wrong timing
Wałęsa was a young worker in 1970, not a charismatic leader. Please don't quote self-made propaganda. Xx236 (talk) 13:48, 6 February 2017 (UTC)