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Personal life section, enrichment suggestions...[edit]

I've removed the personal life section, which was mainly a listing of Goldkuhl's supposed 'model friends' which consisted mainly of speculation and had no sources. It had no place in the article.

Also, there is an unnecessary amount of focus on her career after the show, which is great, but a lot of (if not most) people still know her solely because of her appearance on America's Next Top Model. I know fashion snobs like to turn their nose up at this show, but I don't think it's fair to downplay the relevance of her participation on the show and pretend like it never happened.

Right now the article reads a bit like a résumé. I think it would be good to note her small beginnings and aspects of her pre-show career, like the small catalog work she was doing prior to ANTM, or how she was optioned as a semi-finalist on Tyra.com for cycle 15 but wasn't chosen, only to make it four seasons later, etc. There are things worth mentioning without going into the crazy territory of cringey fan-obsession (fan obsession meaning mentioning her entire call-out arc and feuds with certain contestants etc), like the fact that she was the first person to ever be brought back, for example.

After this, i'm sure we could do a better job of the work that went into establishing such a successful post-show career, and how the Givenchy exclusive helped her break through into mainstream fashion. I'm sure there's some great interviews of how the industry responded to her being a former contestant of the show, and how she was able to overcome that. Photo(s) (rights permitting of course) would be great too.

Also - all those listings of show's she's walked need sources, stat.

The article could be a lot richer than it currently is, it has a lot of potential. 172.56.10.208 (talk) 05:18, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]