Talk:Lemuel Carpenter

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Lemuel Carpenter is now mentioned in the following articles; Pío Pico, Juan Bandini, David W. Alexander, Abel Stearns, William Wolfskill and in the History of Los Angeles - (Early Settlers 1769-1850). This should take care of the orphan template status dated June 2009. Jrcrin001 (talk) 09:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

See also: Rancho Santa Gertrudes Jrcrin001 (talk) 09:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Samuel Carpenter
Samuel Carpenter may not have been Lemuel's brother, but eldest son. In the 1860 Census of Sutter, Yuba Township, CA was a Samuel Carpenter age 26, born circa 1834 in KY. (ref: 1860 Federal Census for California. Film no. 803070, pg. 67)

In addition the 1850 Census in Los Angeles (cited in article) does not list a 16 year old Samuel. However, the father "Lemuel" is often confused with "Samuel." When comparing the capital "S" elsewhere on the census page, it becomes obvious that "Lemeul" is correct because the "L" is written different from the "S." Jrcrin001 (talk) 18:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No Samuel listed amongst his children Lemuel Carpenter. And Pico Rivera, 2008, Pico Rivera History and Heritage Society, Arcadia Publishing, ISBN: 9780738555997 p.7 shows Lemuel (Samuel) Carpenter.Emargie (talk) 16:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Lemuel died in 1859 by his own hand. His ranch was sold then there was a series of lawsuits. The by 1862 another Carpenter - Samuel Carpenter - has legal possession. A dead man of that time can not own property. If legal title reverted to the family, then the eldest child or son would have claim. If there was no children or spouse then it would have gone to a surviving relative - like a brother. We know at least one of Lemuel's sons survived past 1862 ... This makes the mystery all so much more interesting! Jrcrin001 (talk) 06:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)