Talk:Leonidas Squadron

Accuracy?
Hello. This is part of the Leonidas Squadron article:"...in order to overcome the Allies' technological and numerical advantages with their fanatic spirit." May I ask what technological advantages whoever wrote this was referring to? As far as I know had it been the Germans that were technological ahead of the Allies during that time. Also but not only when it came to aviation. Or am I mistaken? Had there been not only German but also Allied turbojet and rocket propelled interceptors and cruise missiles in the skies above Europe? --Landliebe (talk) 13:50, 26 April 2009 (UTC) Landliebe —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landliebe (talk • contribs) 13:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The Allies' technological advantages comprised their immense heavy bomber forces, their high-performance, long-range fighters which acted as bomber escorts, and their high-powered piston engines which were more powerful and reliable than the German equivalents. - Salmanazar (talk) 14:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I also have some doubts regarding the accuracy. It seems well sourced, but when i try the verify the content of some of the sources i come up empty. In particular a text search for "leonidas" or "skorzeny" with Wilhelm Deist's book (oxford university press) comes up empty:  --Kmhkmh (talk) 04:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I can confirm "Heiner Lange" was indeed a higher ranking officer within the Unit. I can now also confirm the unit was called "Leonidas". When the war was over Heiner Lange was wanted by the British and at the same time worked for the British troops as a translator. He lived together with two wifes, both gave him a child, a son and a doughter. Sebastian9719 (talk) 17:46, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

WP:PROVIT
When I originally wrote this article all the information in it was cited. Over the last four years text has been added to the article that is not cited. Next time I visit this page I will remove any text that does not have an inline citation to support it. -- PBS (talk) 09:47, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Even if the item is cited, it does not necessarily guarantee that the material is correct or that the original author understood the material in his composition. Soviet forces began crossing the Oder River on 31 January 1945. Over the next few months they established BRIDGEHEADS (not the same thing as BRIDGES). By when they launched their Great Offensive "Operation Berlin" from the Küstrin BRIDGEHEAD on 16 April 1945, they had all the armour and guns they needed on the WEST side of the Oder, and therefore the Oder BRIDGES were no longer relevant. Observing this force from the Seelow Heights, the Germans could see the problem facing them. Therefore the Luftwaffe suicide attacks on Küstrin on 17 April 1945 were not against the bridges, but against the BRIDGEHEADS, i.e. the aim was to kill as many Soviet troops as possible. And they succeeded, if you look at the overall Soviet dead of 1.Byelorussian Front and 1.Ukrainian Front for the period 14 April -8 May 1945 (290,000 total dead including non-combat deaths, i.e. in the BRIDGEHEADS: only 70,000 of these were admitted killed in action) as opposed to the maximum German losses of between 60,000 and 90,000, i.e. about right statistically. For my sources, read any independent history book.Geoffreybrooks (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Beevor's opinion
If I recall, Beevor noted that many bridges were damaged, but the Soviet engineers repaired them quickly at great cost. It might be important to cite the full text from this page to convey the author's true meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.228.216.128 (talk) 12:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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