Talk:Leontopodium nivale

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LLAMAS ARE DOMESTIC very true this is. they were domesticated over 6,500 years ago.

Cultivation?
How and where? Winnetka 05:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, you can find seeds in the garden shops here in Italy. I know because I just did that... Apparently, it's quite an easy plant to grow, which striked me as odd, since I know it's a protected species on the Alps... Mikelima 13:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Edelweiss Pirates
Hello, I found no mention here that Edelweiss was an official badge of the Edelweiss Pirates -- the anti-nazi youth groups in the Third Reich. Thus, I added a proper note. Cheerz, Critto

St Valentine's Day tradition?
I grew up in the Austrian Alps and never heard of that "tradition". It is also very unlikely to be a St Valentine's Day tradition, since the holiday itself has become popular in German-speaking Europe not until the 1950s. Dagonet 18:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Euros
Isn't an Edelweiß on a German euro-cent?Therequiembellishere 07:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's on the Austrian coins. Dagonet 18:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Leontopodium article needed
This image found on commons, "Leontopodium" redirects to Edelweiss. - Leonard G. 15:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Mythology
I read it in the fairy tales book in my childhood.

How am I to reference that ?

Chimesmonster (talk) 11:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

The story is also here:

http://childhoodreading.com/Edmund_Dulac_and_Gus/Snow_Queen.02.html

According to

http://childhoodreading.com/about_site.html

is is from

Andersen, Hans. Edmund Dulac, ill. Stories from Hans Andersen. Hodder and Stoughton, Limited: London, 1922.

Maybe this helps as a reference?

Mike.fabian (talk) 19:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a million, Mike dude. RAA Ra Ra your Boat (talk) 11:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chimesmonster (talk • contribs) 11:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Song
The text should link to the actual song, with a short blurb stating that the song is featured in the musical The Sound of Music. Were I able to make links that behave properly, I would do so myself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edelweiss_%28song%29   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.17.22 (talk) 22:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Isn't there another song about Edelweiss? I seem to remember a lyric that goes something like "Adolf Hitlers Lieblingsblume is die schoene Edelweiss."

I couldn't have dreamed it, could I? Fulminouscherub (talk) 23:50, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Edelweiss was utilized by parts of the Nazi movement, if you have reliable source it could have a place in the article. Hardyplants (talk) 01:19, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Quite correct, a maudlin song (by a man) about Hitler's preference for the flower.

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Wrong names?
Ther's something wrong with this phrase: "Its white colour is considered a symbol of purity, and holds a Latin as well as Greek name, floarea reginei (Queen's flower)." The problem is that "floarea reginei" is pure Romanian language (see the romanian version wiki). I don't think it qualifies as valid latin and for sure it's not greek.---Paul- (talk) 14:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In romanian Edelweiss is also known as "Floare de colţ" [ţ=tz] being the most used name, and means "Peak flower". Also there is a romanian song about this flower by Ducu Berţi, called "Floare de colţ", it's a very beautiful folk song. Since in Romania altitudes of over 2000m are rare, the flower is very appreciated.(talk) 21:29, 6 December 2010 (GMT+2)

US name
I removed the claim that it's a popular US name, since it was undocumented and the on-line name pages I consulted said that it wasn't even in the top 1000 US names. BillyDinPVD (talk) 01:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Symbolism
Something rare and beautiful, that people ask to be brought?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 133.62.137.102 (talk) 02:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What? Bazonka (talk) 18:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Symbolism gallery, restoring
like the olive branch and a few other plants, this plant has extensive symbolic use. there had been a newly-made image gallery --a product of days of wikiwork. someone flagged it 'cleanup gallery' (no, not necessary) and then just removed it. i'm restoring it. future deleters had better find a talk page consensus and avoid 3rr. the previous deletion was done with no word here whatsoever. Cramyourspam (talk) 16:19, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry,  future deleters had better find a talk page consensus and avoid 3rr? So far the only revert was your own.

I don't really see your problem. Image galleries belong on commons:. This is project-wide practice, it does not need to be discussed on a page-by-page basis. Your gallery is perfectly fine, but it belongs on commons:Leontopodium alpinum. cleanup-gallery, IG. If you must have a discussion on it, the place for it is at Wikipedia talk:Image use policy.

also, when you say "days of wikiwork", I take it you mean "several minutes of wikiwork"? Or how long does it take to collect a few pics from commons:Category:Edelweiss in art in a gallery? --dab (𒁳) 12:04, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


 * removing the flag box since the gallery is not "random images of the article subject" but rather shows examples of the subject as used symbolically, a rather abstract subtopic demonstrated well visually. the gallery itself mentions symbolic uses in the gallery title. **NOTE: ADDENDUM --at least when i made the gallery, this was in the title; someone (i did not read the article history to see who) changed the title to "edelweiss in art" which was not in the original. my gallery was meant to further explain the symbolic uses. a pleasant side effect was to also show numerous symbol-images which illustrate the essence of the plant's structure --its key features. there were not readily apparent a few weeks ago when the lede image was less representative and when there was not yet a gallery showing the various seasonal phases.  your "also, when you say 'days of wikiwork', I take it you mean 'several minutes of wikiwork'?" implies lying or puffery on my part which goes against WP:AGF; i said days and i meant days. collecting, formatting, organizing, and sometimes wikilinking the many examples took more than "several minutes". **NOTE: ADDENDUM this can be confirmed in the article history --though i don't often check that area myself so i can harldy throw stones. you've done lots of other good editing on the article (i like the bit about removing the "endangered" status from countries where it is not found particularly); thanks for that.  Cramyourspam (talk) 16:59, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Range
''Leontopodium sp. is a protected plant in many countries, including Mongolia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Switzerland (since 1878), France, Norway, Iran, India (Zanskar region), Italy, Serbia, Malaysia (In Genting and Cameron Highlands), Indonesia (In Semeru Mountain), Germany, Spain (Ordesa National Park), Poland and Slovakia (Tatra National Park), Slovenia (in Gorizia and Gradisca since 1896, in Carniola since 1898), Austria (since 1886) and Romania (since 1933).''

So does that mean it grows in all these countries (like indonesia o.O )? Is it native there or introduced, and if introduced, then why are they protecting it? what is the native and introduced range of this flower?--85.148.123.77 (talk) 04:29, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

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Band of Brothers: mark of a true soldier
Is it true that it was considered the mark of a true soldier or is this Hollywood revisionism? The content we have so far says it was done by mountaineers and certain units related to mountaineering, not German soldiers generally. Solipsism 101 (talk) 21:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Offiicial?
The article doesn't say when the edelweiss officially became a national symbol.

Is it official?

(I couldn't gind it on google. Also not at Floral emblem).

MBG02 (talk) 03:16, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

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Similarity between Edelweiss and Flannel Flower?
Although they are different geni and species, the two flowers are remarkably similar. Flowers, leaves and seeds. Are they at all related? Or is this ... coincidence? Convergent evolution? I have asked this question on both pages. 2001:8003:E415:A101:E8DD:8746:3C5E:227D (talk) 02:50, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The genera are pretty certainly different if you refer to the Australian genus Actinotus. However, the family is the same: Asteraceae. Woolly leaves and other parts are quite common among species in the Asteraceae, sometimes on new leaves (eg Oldenburgia ) sometimes all over. It is a general protection against various threats such as drought, cold, and radiation. You could call it convergent evo if you like, but it is a little general for that JonRichfield (talk) 10:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

German name
The German name is written with an eszett (ß), shouldn’t it be written without one? Using Swiss German (which lacks ß) feels more appropriate here. Sprucecopse (talk) 14:57, 10 March 2024 (UTC)