Talk:Leslie Nielsen/Archive 1

Last name
Isn't his name NEILSON ?
 * I don't think so. Google says "Did you mean: "Leslie Nielsen"" -- Tarquin 17:33 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)
 * No. --Kinu 19:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Can we lock this page to keep his information and legacy intact? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irock440 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Image
A picture would be nice, but I guess copyrighting makes it difficult?

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5351/leslierip.png :( from Belarus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.120.196.73 (talk) 18:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Better description of Nielsen
Hello,

There seems to be a better description of Neisen here:

http://www.canadaswalkoffame.com/inductees/01_leslie_nielsen.xml

This Wiki description seems to miss the fact that he lived in the Yukon, Edmonton and Calgary.

fishy factoid

 * Born of Danish and Welsh parentage, he studied at the Lorne Greene
 * Academy of Radio Arts in Toronto before going to the United States.

This link goes to Lorne Greene the actor born in 1915 or so. Is this correct? Nielsen was only a few years younger than Greene and studied at a school named after him?

Just seems weird.
 * I'm guessing it was named thusly somewhat later on --Angry mob mulls options 16:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I found this website that says that Leslie Nielsen was born in 1926 not 1921: http://www.tv.com/leslie-nielsen/person/6996/summary.html --Kabe13 00:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Filmography
Hey all, I put the following line in the hidden text alongside Nielsen's filmography. As Nielsen allegedly has over 1500 television appearances and many movie roles over the decades, this article can not possibly hold every guest appearance, commercial narration, etc. I think we should limit the filmography to roles which have defined or influenced Nielsen's career and include a link to the Internet Movie Database for the extended list.

The text reads:
 * Note: Nielsen's complete filmography of film and television takes up 220 listings according to The Internet Movie Database, not including appearances on television specials such as Circus of the Stars, game shows such as Match Point, and documentary narration. Obviously, that all can't fit in this article without making it a giant list. As such, if you choose to make an addition, please ensure there's a Wikipedia article for that listing and that it was an influential role in his career.

Let me know what you think, but I think this will help keep the list tidy. His staring role in Swamp Fox or Police Squad was considerably more notable than a Match Point appearance, and this keeps the page looking clean.

Thanks! --Ataricodfish 19:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

One of his recent projects has been two series of commercials for Arizona Federal Credit Union (serving Maricopa and Pinal counties) which can be seen on their website https://www.azfcu.org/ Mortifyd 07:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Another fishy factoid - Forbidden Planet's plot based on The Tempest? From what I understand only the characters are based on The Tempest, the plot is very different. Something to consider changing.


 * The plot similarities are "close enough". The principal changes are driven by the differences in Prospero's/Morbius's personalities. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 15:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * This section would also look better with the film director's name included in the table. I'll add it to my to-do list, unless anyone wants to be bold.  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Removed opinion
", although his later starring roles failed to match the success of his earlier work." I felt that this was someone's opinion and not established fact so I removed it. — oo64eva (Alex) (U @ 09:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Day Of The Animals
Hello, I've seen a movie of Leslie Nielsen wich is not mentoined in the wikipedia article named "The Day Of The Animals". You can find more info about the motion picture at www.imdb.com. Daniel from Hungary

GA comments - on hold
There are 7 things that must pass before an article reaches GA status. I have reviewed it, and feel there are one or two items which need sorting out before passing it, although which could be easily fixed. This is a breakdown of the criteria:


 * 1) Well-written:
 * 2) Factually accurate:
 * 3) Broad:
 * 4) Neutrally written: Indifferent
 * 5) Stable:
 * 6) Well-referenced: Indifferent
 * 7) Images:

Comments:

Although it begins well, the article needs a number of later sections, particularly "Later comedies" clarified, as they can be seen as using weasel words. Notably, the passage


 * "Critics panned Repossessed (1990) and 2001: A Space Travesty (2000), parodies of The Exorcist and 2001: A Space Odyssey. Both films attempted the absurdist comedy Nielsen is recognized for, but were poorly received."

needs to have a reference to a critical review and probably a box-office reference too. I have put the nomination on hold, but not failed it and will see if it has improved in seven days.

Bob talk 12:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with Bob, there really need to be more sources. Of the seven sources, three are movie reviews. Most of the other sources are brief bios and all sources are web based. With such a long career as Nielsen has had, I imagine that there are some book sources as well. Try the reference section of your local library, most will have at least one published movie encyclopedia. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 02:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey there, thanks for the advice, all. Alas, I'm probably not going to be able to get to fixing up the article this week as I hoped to sit down and do. Surprisingly, I've had a hard time finding *quality* sources for this article (much of the movie reviews guides only have small blurbs which I didn't see using for this, and Nielsen's "autobiography" is a work of fiction). I agree that there shouldn't just be web-based sources, but that's all I have been able to locate to date. I'll have to spend a free weekend down at the bookstore and see if I can find something more helpful. --Ataricodfish 03:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC) (striking and correcting, --Ataricodfish 03:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC))

Fail
You're really close here but I failed it per the hold running out and the above not quite being met yet, try again soon though

(The Bread 02:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC))

Waterman Movie?
Is it worthy to mention Leslies supposed role in the Waterman movie?

Nominated for GA
I have nominated this article for GA. I also was unable to find any book sources, and spent many hours scouring the internet looking for news articles and bios, and was disappointed to find so few. Nevertheless, I have still complied as much as information I could find about his life, so we'll see how the nomination goes. As a side note, I e-mailed a radio station to get approval to use one of their images of Nielsen, and I am just waiting for the author of the image so I can add it within the next few days to Wikimedia Commons for use on the article. --Nehrams2020 23:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

GA pass
Good work. Definitely. Just keep finding sources where you can (I recommend one for Forbidden Planet as a classic film) but this is superb and an enjoyable read. Alientraveller 15:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing the article so quickly. I've tried to find a lot of sources, but so far have had little luck. Hopefully I can find a biography eventually (I haven't found one yet on Amazon). --Nehrams2020 18:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Scrubs
Surely there should be an entry in the Filmography of his protrayal of the doctor who everyone loved (cant recall his name) in Scrubs if there is mention of an uncredited role...? Gcrossan(Talk) 20:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Sorry, that wasnt Leslie. my bad Gcrossan(Talk) 13:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Bracken's World?

Why is this show not mentioned?

Alvin P. Bluthman apbluthman@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.9.56.203 (talk) 15:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Timeline incorrect (minor detail)
After "Airplane!" it says "first comedy role", yet only a few movies before is "Kentucky fried movie". It may be argued that it was the first major comedy role, but perhaps that's what the line should say? 78.86.230.62 (talk) 00:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Picture 'controversy'
Hi, just a heads up to say, the best image to use on this article is currently under discussion, so I ask all concerned to please not change the image until consensus is reached. Thanks, --  Chzz   ►  11:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Dispute has been resolved; new image uploaded. --  Chzz   ►  23:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

The image at the introduction
Just to say, I think that image of Nielsen it awful! As a big fan of the comedian, I really think we need to change the photo. I liked the one that was up there previously, which is now in the ''Airplane! and The Naked Gun'' section of the article.  Ross Rhodes (  T   C  )Sign! 20:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Someone subsequently put the heavily Photoshopped image back. Crimeny. This was resolved months ago, I thought for good.

72.192.11.48 (talk) 21:09, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Spanish Movie
Leslie Nielsen will make a cameo role in a Spanish Movie, You look here. --Ravave (talk) 14:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Stan Hellsling
Leslie Nielsen appeared in the 2009 horror parody "Stan Hellsling" and you should add that to the filmography —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.131.120 (talk) 00:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Role added. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Death
He's kinda dead now, someone should add stuff about why and how. "Recent work" section may need a new title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.89.209.115 (talk) 01:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

It was added with a how, but mysteriously deleted a few minutes ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.188.250 (talk) 01:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

There's not much about it yet, lets just wait until there's more confirmation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.92.108 (talk) 02:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed story of his death via his nephew, Douglas Nielsen in an interview with CJOB in Manitoba, http://www.cjob.com/Landing/Story.aspx?ID=1318402 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinkozuch (talk • contribs) 02:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * CNN and MSNBC are confirming. --Alan the Roving Ambassador (talk) 02:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Is it really notable that celebrities twittered about his death? This seems like a completely pointless addition. MatttK (talk) 09:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree. Removed as it is not normal for an encyclopedia, Shirley! ross nixon 10:00, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Change link to Kungfu (TV Series)
The link to the television series which he appeared in (Kung Fu), goes to the subject Kung Fu. Please change it to the TV series page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(TV_series) —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlyingsCool (talk • contribs) 12:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ in this edit.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  17:22, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Canadian-American
Just as a matter of interest - if his mother is Welsh and his father is Danish, both emigrate to Canada and he's born and brought up in Candada, why is he called a Candian-American actor? Fainites barley scribs 11:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Because Americans are BEST and love to claim everything as their own. 87.114.101.69 (talk) 11:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd like to know why you headed a question about Nielsen's ethnicity with "Why". It doesn't tell readers the remotest thing about what the question's about. -- Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   12:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

The article refers to him as a naturalised US citizen, i'm guessing thats why he's refered to as Canadian-American. 89.241.171.153 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC).
 * The links supporting the claim were either dead links or didn't support it but this one says, 'A naturalized U.S. citizen, Nielsen has lived in Arizona fulltime for the past four years and "on and off" before that for 15 years. However, he still considers himself a Canadian.' Ericoides (talk) 05:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request - Family Plan film link
Please someone remove the link in filmography to Family Plan - it's not the same movie. The film starring Leslie Nielson does not have a Wikipedia entry (IMDB: 2005 film ('Family Plan' wiki entry) 1997 film (Nielson)).

--Weatherfield (talk) 20:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Thanks for pointing that out! Acps110 (talk • contribs) 01:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Leslie Nielsen's Name
Everyone editing this article: please use the correct spelling of Leslie Nielsen's name. There are plenty of instances of the incorrect "Neilson" on this talk page but thankfully none seem to have made it into the article. Ivanvector (talk) 05:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I already went through the various articles on Wikipedia and fixed the links that used the incorrect spelling. Fortunately there weren't that many. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Dates
Earlier today, the date format was arbitrarily changed to mdy without discussion. When I restored the existing version - in place since the article's creation in 2002 - it was again reverted. I have restored the pre-existing version until discussion completes. This is a minor point in the grand scheme of things, but the MOS is pretty clear about not flipping articles back and forth or changing from the first version without a really good reason. --Ckatz chat spy  04:50, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * WP:STRONGNAT won't apply here - no especially strong or exclusive ties to U.S. for that format. Therefore WP:DATERET would apply, meaning international/dmy format per first contributor (creator). Dl2000 (talk) 05:05, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * How does Leslie Nielsen's American citizenship not constitute a strong tie to the United States? It's true that he also had a strong tie to Canada, but Canada commonly uses both formats.  How does it not make sense to use the format shared by the two countries of which Nielsen was a citizen?  —David Levy 05:30, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Your reversion's edit summary completely ignored the explicitly stated rationale that Leslie Nielsen was a naturalized American. And you've addressed this in neither your second reversion's edit summary nor the above message.  If, like Dl2000, you disagree that this constitutes a strong national tie, please say so.  —David Levy 05:30, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd argue that Nielsen is far more closely associated with Canada then with the US. More to the point, the format has been accepted for well over eight years, and there is no compelling rationale for changing it. --Ckatz chat spy  06:04, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Odd this change would happen after his death and years since its been this way. As per Manual of Style (dates and numbers) Canada uses both ways, however the first format should remain unless there a good reason to change. As for  Canadian or American ties - hes  a member of the Order of Canada that he got  for his contribution to  Canadian culture   and  hes is/was UNICEF Canada spokesman. Let alone his strong Canadian ties by way of his family (he has famous relatives well famous in Canada anyways). In my view hes Canadian as Canadian can be.  Many Many Many Many Canadians get American citizenship so they can pay less taxes (I do this).  Moxy (talk) 07:09, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * There is no dispute regarding Nielsen's strong Canadian ties (and I'll note that the editor who made the initial change, citing Nielsen's American citizenship as a factor, is from Canada). And apart from Connormah's assertion that "MDY format is way more common in Canada," we all agree that because both styles are commonly used in Canada, neither prevails (or should be changed) on that basis.
 * But only the "mdy" style is widely used in both countries of which Nielsen was a citizen. If his association with the United States was as minor as you suspect, it shouldn't be mentioned in the article's lead.  —David Levy 15:43, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Does this sentence make any sense?
"Nielsen's lead roles in the films Forbidden Planet (1956) and The Poseidon Adventure (1972) received positive reviews as a serious actor, though he is primarily known for his comedic roles."

His lead roles received reviews? Or did he/himself receive reviews? Would it make more sense like this:

Nielsen had lead roles in the films Forbidden Planet (1956) and The Poseidon Adventure (1972) and received positive reviews as a serious actor.

Just wondering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.20.225.227 (talk) 17:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, your version is better, grammatically. If you want to keep the original as much as possible, you could say "Nielsen's performances lead roles in the films Forbidden Planet ...".  --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  20:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

New image?
Would people here be in favor of featuring the main image of Leslie Nielsen as he appeared in his prime or youth, such as around the time Forbidden Planet was released? I personally think it would be appropriate, as that is a tradition Wikipedia has followed through with while concerning other entertainers, such as Michael Jackson. D arth B otto talk•cont 17:33, 08 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I would prefer the current image as it's a high quality head-on portrait. Nielsen had a long career and he gained considerable popularity later on during his shift to comedy. It would be great though if we could get a free image of him early in his career rather than that of in a movie trailer. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 17:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)