Talk:Leslie T. Chang

Is this Leslie Chang's personal homepage?
Just like her husband Peter Hessler's Wikipedia entry, Leslie Chang's entry also completely lacks any inline footnotes and parenthetical references. Clearly their "fans" are making these pages, which is fine except that they know little if anything about Wikipedia's guidelines for standards. Not sure even why Leslie Chang has an entry on Wikipedia just because she is Hessler's wife and wrote a book. So I will leave it up to the fans to fix this page, otherwise it's a prime candidate for deletion. In the meantime, I have added Refimprove and No footnotes banners. Oh0000 (talk) 07:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not a "fan" and have not read her work, but have resolved the tagged problems and removed the tags. She has lots of reliable source coverage; sometimes it's almost as easy to find citations as it is to stick on a tag.  --CliffC (talk) 21:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

No it is not
I agree that the contents need footnoting and that it is probably the work of a fan who didn't bother to follow wikipedia's guidelines. But the anonymous critic's fundamental point is misleading. Chang deserves a page as much as any bestselling author deserves a page. "Factory Girls" has been translated into a dozen languages and has sold over 40,000 copies in hard and softcover--far more than any other China book in the past two or three years. (And if this were her page, wouldn't she have boasted of this?) I can include these facts on the page and provide citations but for now want to head off a misguided attempt to eliminate her entry. What is clear is that she deserves an entry on merit and not due to her marital status. This criticism strikes me as typical of some of the embittered/jealous bloggers who berate her on China sites such as danwei.org. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Halsmith (talk • contribs)


 * , your knowledge of Leslie Chang is impressive...and you agenda here is quite transparent. Okay, you are obviously a fan and you think she deserves a Wikipedia page to make her somehow relevant in the world. Fine, if it will make you feel better, I concede this page to you and will not contest its presence on Wikipedia. But your remarks are (once again, just like on the Hessler page) laughable:


 * 1) "Translated into a dozen languages?" Really? Because a basic Google search comes up with zip zilch ZERO on that point. If something is in the works, then you either have to cite that internal Random House memo on TheSmokingGun, or remove the sentence until its actually true. That's how things on Wikipedia work, friend.


 * 2) Re: "the embittered bloggers of danwei." Once again, tell me where this rant is, show me a URL or something, anything, to verify your claim that Leslie Chang is that important to people other than her managers and, um, you. I'll be emailing this discussion to danwei, because I'm sure they would love to see how you have accused them of being anti-Leslie Chang, even though - once again - a basic search on danwei comes up with NADA!


 * The reason why Leslie's Wikipedia article needed cleaning up had nothing to do with Communist conspiracies, but simply that, like her husband's Wikipedia article, it was poorly sourced and smacked of me-ism. Hopechina (talk) 09:36, 13 June 2010 (UTC)Hopechina
 * What me-ism? And why to erase the article's content - just for the sake of mao-ism?--78.128.177.216 (talk) 23:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

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