Talk:Lewis Carroll Shelf Award

List?
My yesterday and today revisions have expanded the preface, but this was already an article with a long list rather than a List. While adding the WP:CHILDLIT banner, I have incorporated my opinion by re-classifying Start rather than List in the two inherited project banners. --P64 (talk) 18:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Order of listing
What is the order of listing within each yearly class? Was there any official order and, if so, should we follow it here? --P64 (talk) 18:10, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

former External links
Beside the 1959 reformat and markup, I have deleted all three External links. They may have been used as sources. This may pertain to the 1963 and 1964 double listing for Pauline Clark, The Return of the Twelve. The address seems to be obsolete. The site elsewhere mentions its database of 126 children's book awards. That would be valuable if complete, if there were direct access even to annual listings for this award. At a glance or three, I see no access by award. This site's listings by award are incomplete. For one major annual award (Carnegie Medal) every winner is listed with the collection of cover images incomplete. For the Lewis Carroll lists, I see only a few of the many named books. --P64 (talk) 14:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Article from Die Zeit, mentioning The Twelve and the Genii′s award
 * Incomplete list of 64 of the many more Lewis Carroll Shelf Award recipients from 1958 to 1979
 * Lewis Carroll Shelf Award at lovethebook

maybe-fruitful new sources
--P64 (talk) 21:31, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The Readability Level of the Lewis Carroll Shelf Award Books, M. Laurian Lasha, University of Minnesota, 1973. (Google Books)

1963
These were the first three listings for 1963 (format revised):
 * Joel C. Harris, Uncle Remus, His Songs and Sayings
 * A. B. Frost, The Art of Ancient Egypt
 * Shirley Blubok, The Yearling

With some wisdom and some evidence I have provided instead:
 * Joel Chandler Harris, Uncle Remus, His Songs and Sayings: The Folk-Lore of the Old Plantation (1881), illus. Frederick S. Church and James H. Moser[4]
 * Shirley Glubok, The Art of Ancient Egypt (1962)[5]
 * Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings, The Yearling (1938)

A. B. Frost was one later illustrator of the first book, Uncle Remus. The Yearling by Rawlings is exceptionally famous and I expect it to be on the list. On the web, The Yearling by Shirley Blubok seems to be derived from this page; Blubok may be entirely spurious (VIAF: search Blubok, Shirley). Meanwhile Shirley Glubok explains art to children (VIAF: "Glubok, Shirley"). The footnote reference provided for Glubok's Art of Ancient Egypt is a library catalog record that specifies Juvenile audience, grades 5 and up (ages 10+). --P64 (talk) 00:04, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Duplicate listings
Where I have noticed duplicate listings I have consistently deleted the later one.
 * 1959 * 1958, Carol Ryrie Brink, Caddie Woodlawn (1935)
 * 1959 * 1958, Catherine Coblentz, The Blue Cat of Castle Town (1949)
 * 1964 * 1963, Pauline Clark, The Return of the Twelve (1962)
 * 1965 * 1964, Madeleine L'Engle, A Wrinkle in Time (1962)
 * 1965 * 1964, Will James, Smoky the Cowhorse (1927)
 * 1966 * 1965, Irene Hunt, Across Five Aprils (1964)
 * 1969 * 1958, Rachel Field, Prayer for a Child (1944)

--P64 (talk) 01:03, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * --P64 (talk) 01:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

1975, The Pig-Tale
The Pig-Tale (1975), a picture book edition of verse, or a single verse, or verse and prose from Sylvie and Bruno Concluded by Lewis Carroll -- or something close to that with text contributed by the illustrator or an editor? -- was added 2013-05-08 by one anonymous editor who also [a] provided explanation of our empty 1974 listing, with a print source, and [b] explained away our empty 1976 listing by separating the 1975 listings under headings 1975 and 1976.
 * diff between revisions, 2013-05-08

During and after some online reading I provided two listings under 1975, which both identify the original text and correct its date (not 1889 but 1893). Granting the data, I wonder how it should be listed. I haven't seen this book or the 1972 picture book Snow White that is listed under 1973 --although I crafted that particular listing.

--P64 (talk) 23:24, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * some of my online readings:, , , , . Good night. --P64 (talk) 23:30, 6 November 2015 (UTC)