Talk:Limahong

Needs Work
The information on this article is good but the writing style is strange and inappropriate for this. Passages such as "The brief Chinese stay of about seven months in Pangasinan was a blessing in disguise to the province for there was embedded in the lives of the natives some good Chinese characters such as thrift, industry, tenacity, and farsightedness" reflect a blatant POV and makes the article read like an enjoyable but highly questionable fable. I'm tagging this for cleanup by somebody knowledgeable on the subject. --168.105.116.55 (talk) 23:02, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

SOMEBODY PLEASE CLEAN UP THIS PAGE!!!!!! its so uncyclopedia like and "a blessing in disguise"?? its somehow biased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Makamisa (talk • contribs) 22:12, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if anyone was interested but it looks like the language that OP refers to (which was removed a long time ago) is a near direct quote from this website, now defunct but run by the Pangasinan government until roughly 2002. That essay in turn comes from the essay "Limahong the Blood-Thirsty" by Baldomero Pulido from A Pangasinan Folio, a gazetteer published by the Marcos government in 1970. WiJaMa (talk) 03:14, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Contradictions and Odd Claims
This article seems to contradict itself and make some odd claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Minguo (talk • contribs) 2006-09-02 02:44:09


 * How so? --- Hong Qi Gong 16:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, here's an example. "Lin Feng then took possession of the city and burned it to the ground. However, he failed to burn the Spaniards out of the city."  If he 'took posession' of the city, how did the Spaniards remain in it?   'Burning it to the ground' seems to leave no room for Spaniards to remain, were they hiding underground?   It should be made clearer. I suspect the original author of the article is not a native English speaker.  Minguo 00:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There's another: the year of death is given as 1575, but then the article says he's found raiding the south China coast in 1589... Cornelius (talk) 22:35, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Header
The result was merged from Lin Feng. -- ♣ Deflagro ♠ 16:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Double entry
The article Lin Feng refers to the same person. --84.245.191.65 18:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright, I've put merge tags on both articles. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

copyvio
from here: http://mozcom.com/~urduja/travel/limahong.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.147.190 (talk) 05:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Tocaotican - where is this?
Hi, Tocaotican Island cannot be found on google maps, this seems to be suspicious. Somebody can find it out and put a map?

Michael Palomino

Logic analytic historiography since 1992

--213.196.208.44 (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

It was in san pedro mindoro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.146.178.201 (talk) 05:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly where it is, but it looks like that's how the place name is given in Historia de las cosas más notables, ritos y costumbres del gran reyno de la China, which is one of the oldest sources on the topic. It's something worth investigating though. WiJaMa (talk) 18:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

A new paper out from a professor at Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona may explain a lot of weird names in the primary sources (and in secondary sources relying on those primary sources) on Limahong. It looks like the copy I've linked is a preprint; I've sent an email to the professor to see if it's going to be formally published somewhere. The paper probably meets the requirements for WP:SPS, but of course it'd be best to see if it's been or will be peer-reviewed somewhere. WiJaMa (talk) 21:17, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 14 December 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 22:37, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Lim Hong → Limahong – WP:COMMONNAME. The article also uses "Limahong" throughout. Timmyshin (talk) 17:24, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Support - Lin Feng is another common spelling, but Limahong is the traditional and still most common one. -Zanhe (talk) 06:53, 16 December 2017 (UTC)


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Commons files used on this page have been nominated for deletion
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 * Invasion of limahong.jpg
 * Limahong Chinese pirate warlord in the Philippines.jpg

Do we have a source for Limahong's birthdate?
Limahong's birthdate doesn't appear to be cited in anywhere in the article and I haven't so far run into any sources that claim a birthdate for him. Most sources describe his origins somewhat fuzzily, which is to be expected for an early modern marginal outlaw figure like Limahong. Additionally, if he was really born in 1499 as this article suggests, he would've been well over 70 when all of his recorded activities (afaik) took place. Do we really have a good source for this birthdate? WiJaMa (talk) 18:39, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I couldn't find any good sources for a birth date or death date so I changed the article to show years active instead. WiJaMa (talk) 00:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)