Talk:Linfen

POLLUTION
All these references to Linfen's pollution problem need to be toned down, including removal of biased external links. One single study by a progressive environmentalist organization does not constitute enough historic basis to smear the town's entire reputation. Moreover, while the region's primary industry is coal, the mines are concentrated far enough in the mountains outside of town to have little visible effect on Linfen's air quality. Most visitors and residents of Linfen aren't even aware of a "pollution problem." The photo campaign (removed from External Links) funded by this environmental organization (and subsequently propegated by news agencies picking up on the hype) is in fact quite misleading. Most of these images were taken in the dead of winter, when wearing face masks is essential for warmth, and has nothing to do with pollution. Any Chinese city at winter will show just as many citizens wearing face masks. Face masks aren't even sold in Linfen in the spring or summer, when the sky is bright blue. Additionally, the "smoke stacks" shown in the pictures are steam, not coal, which has nothing to do with coal pollution. Instead of turning Linfen into an environmentalist protester's wet dream and targeting its single industry, why not instead focus on the town's positive cultural and historical qualities. It's a real pity that one liberal organization's obviously skewed report, along with their puppet photo-journalist, have managed to invade Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.84.229 (talk) 08:05, August 27, 2007 (UTC)


 * I find the pollution comments to also be sensational, one-sided, and inaccurate. I made a couple of changes already. First, the Blacksmith Institue report doesn't say that the city is the worst in the world. It lists it as one among the ten worst. Second, the Time magazine article is simply an article summarizing the report. I removed mention of the Time magazine article since the Blacksmith report is already mentioned in the same sentence. As a side note I would caution anyone against taking Time magazine seriously. They're pretty relaxed about fact-checking china related statements. Anhui is apparently in the Northeast now, who knew.
 * I looked around at other worst of lists and couldn't find another one that mentioned Linfen except those referencing the Blacksmith list. I think we should provide a little bit of context. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 14:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have also removed the mention of the Mother Nature Network as it is not a reliable source. The article which states that Linfen has the worst air pollution of any city in the world is not dated, doesn't list an author, and cites no sources whatsoever. Nor does it give any clues as to what such a general claim actually means. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 15:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

What happened?
This article is completly different from what it was last year. It was much larger and had many photos, who deleted most of it? FinalWish 00:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Undone Changes
I undid some of the changes made to the Linfen article because it had useful information about Linfen, including a photo essay that shows many useful and informative photos of Linfen. Also, the article had been 'toned down' to the point of not accurately portraying the city as it has become in recent years.

Changes
What is an accurate portrayal of the city? I'm suspecting that this page has come under attack from Chinese propagandists. If you are going to remove things from this site because you believe it is an unfair portrayal, then you must replace it with accurate, factual information of the city.

It is a proven "fact" that this city has high levels of pollution why should this be dumbed down and removed from the site?

You cannot change a Wikipedia article because you do not like what it portrays, if what it portrays is backed up by evidence of some sort. This isn't a Chinese tourism website! Nolomorte (talk) 07:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Pinyin
Could someone please provide the pronunciation of this place in Pinyin, as seen in lots of other Chinese place-name articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.113.198.67 (talk) 10:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Help needed to expand the article
I made some changes to the pollution section and I think it's a decent general description of the polution issue now, but the article lacks much other information about the city. I did what I could for the economy section, but it's still quite brief. The history section in particular needs expansion. Linfen has incredible significance as a site of early Chinese civilization, see Taosi and is home to one of the world's oldest astronomical observatories. It saw some action in the Chinese Civil War as well. Demographic info would be useful as well. There's an airport that isn't finished and Shanxi Normal University. Someone who's good at reading Chinese could really improve this article. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 18:28, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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