Talk:List of 19 Kids and Counting episodes

Why there should be six season and not five
Yes, you are correct in that the Duggar's website says season 4 should start on august 3rd. But I think that is a mistake, and they may not have been sure. Here are some reasons why.

1) http://store.discovery.com/18-kids-and-counting-season-3-dvd-set/detail.php?p=207549&v=tlc_shows_18-kids-and-counting TLC is selling a season 3 DVD, which ends with 'Duggars in the Sky'. Thus, season 4 should begin with 'Josie Duggar's First Christmas'

2) http://social.zune.net/tv/series/19-Kids-and-Counting/ecc9c150-eb47-481f-ae30-f488ac86f731 The way they are selling it on the microsoft zune store is the way I have currently organize the episodes on the wiki (with 6 seasons). You can also check iTunes, but I do not know how to link it.

3) http://www.amazon.com/Josie-Duggars-First-Christmas/dp/B0037NSFRW/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1304665973&sr=1-3 Amazon.com's Instant video also splits up your season 3 into two seasons. 07:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

1b) http://store.discovery.com/19-kids-and-counting-season-4-dvd/detail.php?p=289248&v=tlc_shows_18-kids-and-counting Their season 4 DVD doesn't say which episodes are on it, but you can guess from the description. "The adventures begin with the family relocating 3 hours away to be closer to the hospital where Josie will remain for months..." This sounds like 'Josie Duggar's First Christmas' or 'Duggars Movin' Out' or somewhere around there.

4) http://www.amazon.com/Josie-Duggars-First-Christmas/dp/B0037NSFRW/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1304665973&sr=1-3 Amazon.com's Instant video also splits up your season 3 into two seasons.

5) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1307083/episodes#season-4 IMDB also does it this way, though this is obviously not official.

6) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhGOp4uJh_8 some random guy on youtube thinks there are 6 seasons too, though this is obviously very unofficial.

7) an article on examiner titled '19 Kids and Counting’ premieres season six tonight on TLC' Lastly, this article (wiki wouldn't let me link it but just type in examiner + '19 Kids and Counting’ premieres season six tonight on TLC' on google) says season 6 premiered Jan 24th. Americanhero (talk) 07:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

8) Finally, in my personal opinion, it just makes more sense to have season 3 split up into two, especially since they changed the name of the show halfway through. If anything, we should at least call it Season 3a and Season 3b, or 3:part 1 and 3:part 2, or something like that if you don't like it being called 3 and 4.

Also, if you look at the series overview, there is a pattern in season premiere and season finale. If you skip season 1, season 2 starts in early year and ends in summer. Then season 3, starts in summer and ends late year. Then this pattern repeats for seasons 4, 5, and 6. Americanhero (talk) 07:58, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

How about this I will email TLC to get the correct answer on the number of seasons. -the other editor

I noticed that amazon had seven seasons for 19 kids and counting.


 * Amazon has 7 seasons because one of their "seasons" has just specials.
 * If TLC gives you the answer, that would be great. But if not, I think the most important thing is the DVDs.  Amazon, zune, itunes, etc. are not official.  However, the DVDs are official because TLC is the one releasing them.


 * Another thing is "A Very Duggar Wedding" should be a special, but I didn't want to change it because the numbering would be even more messed up.Americanhero (talk) 15:47, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

I looked up the seasons to find where I left off and because these seasons are not consistent with the seasons according to the show itself, the page was totally useless to me. Having the specials separate only made it worse. I had to use Amazon to see that I left off on Season 11 and continue.67.87.68.192 (talk) 00:19, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

19 Kids and Counting: World Tour
Just wondering if this should be in it's own section (as opposed to season) as it seems to be a mini-series that will be airing on Sundays? I don't know if this would be considered a "regular" season or what. --F!ERCE (talk) 00:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you know how many episodes there will be? --Musdan77 (talk) 01:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It's listed through cable as the first episode being part one of three, so I'm assuming it will consist three episodes. --F!ERCE (talk) 07:27, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm going to move it to the specials section. It seems like it's a special since the opening is a little different.Americanhero (talk) 01:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * That is probably where they should be located, as I believe TLC was calling it a three part special. I don't imagine a new season of the show will start until the spring or summer. --F!ERCE (talk) 22:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Bates family special
I don't think that the bates special should be counted on 19 kids and counting page because it had nothing to do with the Duggar family. The bates are getting their own tv show. --M42380 (talk) 17:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Season 9 and 10 are counted as season 6
--M42380 (talk) 21:55, 18 August 2012 (UTC)We really need to put them on the same schedule that TLC is labeling them as.

Please don't delete references that support information about past episodes
A few users have been persistent in an effort to "cleanse" this article of reference citations. They seem to have the misconception that information about past episodes does not need to supported by reference citations. This is wrong. Television shows are not exempt from the Wikipedia policy on verifiability, which exhorts us to identify the published sources that support the information in the encyclopedia. The fact that something happened in the past does not somehow make it universal human knowledge that no longer requires citation support.

It is true that plot descriptions for published works (ostensibly including TV shows) can be implicitly assumed to be sourced to the published work, but if a published summary of the plot can be cited, that's better than implicit reliance on the show itself. This is particularly relevant to TV episodes, which might be hard to find in the future.

Please stop deleting reference citations. When you delete a valid citation, you aren't improving the encyclopedia -- you are damaging it. --Orlady (talk) 15:16, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Why? Up until now, there hasn't been any problem, but you seem to insist on it after all this time. There plenty of shows out there that don't have references for past episodes or their premieres/finales.

What has changed for you, since you're the only insisting on it. 216.218.29.150 (talk) 22:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Guide correction
Hey editors! I've been reviewing various sources (Futon and Zap2it) and it seems that this guide is incorrect. The series is in fact airing its 7th season. Even Discovery Press Web, which is managed by the owners of TLC, labels 19 Kids and Counting as airing season 7. I wanted to get other editors opinions prior to making corrections, which would be a major overhaul. Cheers! – Recollected &#8226;   21:06, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No one has any comments? If not, then I shall proceed with my proposed correction of the guide. – Recollected &#8226;   21:56, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I believe that it was User:F!ERCE who was the main editor to work on the setup. But, if she doesn't respond -- and you have the sources, and are willing to do the work, then I say go ahead. --Musdan77 (talk) 05:14, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I was mainly working on it, but someone keeps changing the format and I'm not sure who. Maybe we should keep the different "seasons," but rename them as separate entities, i.e. 7A and 7B, or something along those lines for the other seasons. I was also just looking at the season DVDs on TLC's website, and it appears that even things like the last episode that is listed under season 1 is actually a special as it is not included on the season 1 DVD. I can start working on it, however; the episode numbers might be messed up for a few hours as I work on changing things around. Help is definitely appreciated on here though. F!ERCE (talk) 08:19, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I updated it. I used TLC's Season 1-5 DVDs for those seasons and Zap2it for season 6 (which by looking at the changed seasons, they run the whole year, so 2012 episodes would make sense as season 6). There were also more specials in the regular episode area as well, so I moved them up to the specials area, but wasn't sure how to categorize that area since there are so many different types of specials in that area now, so I labeled them as "Series Specials." I'm wondering if it's really necessary to separate the specials at all considering episodes such as the World Tour ones, the episode says "World Tour:" and then the episode name. If you see anything wrong or needs fixing, or you think would make the page better, go ahead and correct it, but I believe the episodes are now much closer to what season TLC says they are. I hope everyone is happy with the change. F!ERCE (talk) 10:05, 10 October 2013 (UTC)


 * F!ERCE, in the course of your edits you made a number of changes to the colors in the table, with an edit summary saying the changes hadn't been discussed. They weren't discussed here, but there was a discussion about the readability/accessibility problems caused by the use of color in this article. The subsequent color changes were a technical fix. Once again, as a result of your edits, this article suffers from the problem of blue footnotes on a blue background. Could you please restore an accessible color scheme? --Orlady (talk) 12:06, 10 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Orlady I changed it to an accessible color scheme. Hopefully everyone is happy now. F!ERCE (talk) 10:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thx. --Orlady (talk) 17:07, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Seasons
Someone put the seasons up to ten when there is only eight seasons. We need to move them back to where they were instead of how it is now.--M42380 (talk) 19:05, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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