Talk:List of Edinburgh festivals

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In 'External Links', the URL given for Edinburgh Festivals (currently http://www.edinburghfestivals.co.uk) has recently changed to http://www.edinburghfestivalcity.com. Disclosure - I work for this organisation, and thus am not directing editing the page, per the COI guidelines. I hope this is the correct procedure.

EDIT - if anyone chooses to update this, please note that the issue also applies to the following pages as well (plus likely to others):


 * /wiki/Edinburgh_International_Festival
 * /wiki/Edinburgh_Festival_Fringe
 * /wiki/Edinburgh_International_Film_Festival
 * /wiki/Edinburgh_Fringe
 * /wiki/Edinburgh_festival
 * /wiki/Edinburgh_International_Book_Festival

Thank you.

Michael1885 (talk) 14:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

The organisation of the Festivals depicted here is wrong: every single festival is seperate, the EIF is the oldest and smallest one, it does not encompass all these festivals listed. In fact the Fringe is the largest. Will correct.

Magicalsausage 20:31, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Just for the record, the EIF is far from the smallest - it reached 335,000 people last year, far more than some of the others...

--Oolong 16:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm wondering if we should add external links to all these festivals, since so many of them aren't covered here at all? I know Wikipedia Is Not A Links Directory etc. but would it not make sense in a case like this?

--Oolong 15:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I have re-ordered the external links section to reflect the order in which they were originally added. I have also removed salesy words BAK 12:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I'm quite new to Wikepedia (or at least to the editing side), but I've remembered the advice to "be bold" and have made a few changes to this article. The main things I've done are (a) to add a couple of paragraphs of historical context to explain how the Edinburgh Festival came into being and why there are so many independent Festivals; and (b) to add the dates of foundation of the individual Festivals as a way of reflecting how well-established they all are. I also removed the Free Festival from the list of Festivals, as this is really a promoter within the Fringe and in my view wasn't appropriate for listing at the same level as the Festivals themselves (though I did leave the link to it in the External Links section).

I should declare the interest that I am the editor of the website FringeGuru, but I hope the community will feel that the link I've added is justifiable because of the relevant and factual content of the linked page. Any comments are welcome. EmbraBloke 15:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks like good work to me, surely an improvement. Thanks! I don't think you should worry too much about editing articles about things you might be involved with in other ways, as long as you can keep objective about it... (but I'm not that much of a Wikipedian, so don't assume I'm necessarily right about anything).--Oolong 21:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Other festivals
This section doesn't belong in this article as these other festivals are not part of the Edinburgh Festival (they are just other festivals in Edinburgh) - so I've moved it here:

Although the phrase "Edinburgh Festival" is generally taken to refer to the summer cultural events, a number of other festivals are held in the city around the year. These include, in calendar order:


 * Ceilidh Culture — held annually in March and April
 * Edinburgh International Harp Festival — held annually in March/April
 * Edinburgh International Science Festival — held annually in April
 * OneEighty — the Science Festival 'fringe' (began 2006)
 * Edinburgh Easter Festival — held annually
 * Beltane Fire Festival — held annually on the 30th April
 * Dark City Festival — a goth music festival, held annually in May
 * Children's International Theatre Festival — held annually in late May
 * Edinburgh World Justice Festival — held annually during the last two weeks of June
 * Meadows Festival — usually held in June. (Returned in 2008 after a 3-year absence)
 * Leith Festival — held annually in June
 * Scottish International Storytelling Festival — held annually in October and November
 * Edinburgh's Capital Christmas
 * The exceptionally large Hogmanay celebrations

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Merger discussion
There is a lot of public confusion as to what the "Edinburgh Festival" is. Many people use the term when what they are actually referring to is the Fringe. Some use it as shorthand for the Edinburgh International Festival. Most just use it as a vague catch-all term, as they don't realise there are actually different festivals going on. Marketing people often talk about the "Edinburgh Festivals" (plural). The body formerly known as Festivals Edinburgh is now (I think) Edinburgh Festival City. All in all, I think this article confuses more than it clarifies. I propose turning it into purely a disambiguation page. All other content can then be merged into the relevant individual festival. Peaky76 (talk) 12:30, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Peaky76, this move was problematic because of the other festivals listed in the section above. This page, which presumes to be a comprehensive list of festivals, doesn't include the Fire Festival or the Science Festival. A more appropriate title would be List of Edinburgh arts and cultural festivals, but given the common usage of Edinburgh Festivals to refer to this subset of Edinburgh festivals, I think that simply moving to the plural title solves the problem of creating the misconception that there is just one single festival. Turning this into a disambiguation page would create a numbing list of over 1,000 pages demanding disambiguation, forcing editors to become mind-readers. Did the author intend to mean the Fringe, or the International Festival, or a catch-all term for both? I think they mostly intended to link right to here, where the ambiguity is well-explained in the lead section. So we shouldn't force disambiguation away from this page. That's another problem with the "list of" title... it implies that links to here should be disambiguated. – wbm1058 (talk) 16:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, now I see that Edinburgh Science Festival is indeed one of the Edinburgh Festivals – wbm1058 (talk) 17:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

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Asterisks*
What do the asterisks mean at the end of some of the 'years of foundation'? They're not explained anywhere. -Taras (talk) 12:57, 27 November 2019 (UTC)


 * With no explanation forthcoming in three years, I've decided to be bold and remove them. TRiG (talk) 13:42, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * On further exploration, spelunking through the history, it looks like there used to be an explanation which was then mistakenly edited out. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Edinburgh_festivals&oldid=824996640 says

"Listed in order of foundation; * = member of the umbrella body Festivals Edinburgh" TRiG (talk) 13:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Suggested additions
I have a COI so won't edit directly at this point, but I'd suggest that both the Beltane Fire Festival (30 April) and the Samhuinn Fire Festival (31 October) might be good additions here.

Lirazelf (talk) 09:27, 23 July 2021 (UTC)