Talk:List of cymbal manufacturers

Merging
Merging cymbal manufacturers articles. What is now needed: Brief summaries of the major manufacturers would be useful. A decision on which of the lesser manufacturers deserve their own article. And then a tidy up and an edit of the article. SilkTork 00:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't these articles normally be "list of cymbal manufacturers"? (Otherwise, the title should be singular.) –Unint 01:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, for comparison's sake: List of timpani manufacturers, List of marimba manufacturers, List of guitar manufacturers; in fact, check the Google search for manufacturer lists at en.wikipedia.org. Most manufacturer lists are just lists of wikilinks to articles (or articles hoped to exist), and I have yet to find such a list with extensive prose. –Unint 01:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * List of bicycle part manufacturers, List of model aircraft manufacturers, List of former IA-32 compatible processor manufacturers — all fairly obscure topics, but the articles (many of which are stubs shorter than the cymbal ones) remain individual. I did find a contrary example: List of streetlight manufacturers and fixtures. –Unint 01:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

It's an article with such extensive prose because it's an article not a list. It's like the difference between a book on the people of Great Britain and a telephone directory. This is not intended to be a telephone directory. SilkTork 08:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I propose that the article is renamed to List of cymbal manufacturers. The fact that this article contains excessive amounts of content does not stop it being a list- that is the difference between a list and a category. Categories are the telephone directories of Wikipedia, lists have much more information. An article on cymbal manufacturers would discuss methods of cymbal manufacture, and trends in the business, not list specifc examples. Well, it may have a list, but certainly no real details on it. However, I think these minor craftsmen are best suited being all together in one place. J Milburn 10:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I posted an inquiry at WikiProject Integration. –Unint 19:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

THe section on Smyrna cymbals needs to be completely rewritten as it was clearly copied from an advertisement. Andreuso (talk) 19:47, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Unmerge
I'm quite appalled that UFIP and Wuhan have been lumped in with minor manufacturers. It's as if we'd created an article on automobile makes and redirected Rolls Royce and Skoda to it, on the grounds that Fiat and Ford were bigger. Where will it end? Perhaps we could just have one mega-article entitled information, and merge and redirect everything else into it? (->

I'll try to find some time for this... but it's frustrating to have to redo things I've already done once. And I'm interested in other views of course. But mine is that, given time, these stubs are sure to grow to good articles. Andrewa 16:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

No comments? Interesting... we now list Istanbul Agop Cymbals as a major brand, with their own article, while both Wuhan and UFIP are listed as minor manufacturers. No doubt this is someone's opinion, but it's a bit sad to see it in Wikipedia.

I still say, split the articles out again. If we can have articles for every character of a playstation game, we can certainly have one for UFIP and Wuhan. We shouldn't even try to decide who are major and minor manufacturers, this is just inviting POV. Andrewa 16:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

We are missing Bosphorus entirely. Thom8o (talk) 02:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Major cymbal manufacturers
What is the reasoning behind including I. Agop, Bosphorus, and Soultone amongst the major cymbal manufacturers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.13.151 (talk) 20:10, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Feedback from 124.171.80.54 (29 March 2012)
Copied from Help:Editing/feedback and reformatted for clarity -- John of Reading (talk) 06:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

There are a few cymbal makers that you have left out.

They are -


 * Cymbalutopia. Independent cymbalsmith Craig Lauritsen - www.cymbalutopia.com
 * Steve Hubback - www.stevhubback.com
 * Ottaviano Cymbals - ottavianocymbals.com

Drum Magazine has a list of cymbal manufacturers in it's special edition 'The Cymbal', issue 188, February 2012.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.80.54 (talk) 00:27, 29 March 2012‎

Cymbal manufacturers - OTRS request
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Instruments. Andrewa (talk) 19:28, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of smaller cymbal manufacturers and independent cymbalsmiths.
It has recently come to my attention that the vast majority of the smaller cymbal manufacturers and all of the independent cymbalsmiths have been removed from the Cymbal Manufacturers page.

I am asking those responsible to explain what they are attempting to accomplish with their deletions, so that a reasonable solution to their concerns can be reached.

In the meantime, I have added a revised entry for Bettis Custom Cymbals, as well as re-added in the original entry for Roberto Spizzichino as he is no longer able to do so himself.

Thank you,

Matt Bettis

Jmbettis (talk) 01:21, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Request to have a link from this page to Matt_Nolan_(English_cymbal_and_gong_maker)
As above. I would also suggest grouping the page into Majors, Independents, and Defunct/Historical companies. Maybe Minors too if the tidal wave of small Turkish companies comes back. Thanks Teethmeister (talk) 13:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Started organizing the "Other cymbal manufacturers" section
In order to cut down on unnecessary edits and edit warring, I believe that all of the companies in the "Other cymbal manufacturers" section should be currently in operation, listed in alphabetical order, and listed with no additional editorial comment or images. Any company that wishes to expand upon their entry should link their entry to a dedicated wikipedia page about their company. This will ease the maintenance of the main "Cymbal Manufacturers" page.

If there is disagreement to this approach, please discuss it here on the Talk page prior to making wholesale changes to the new format.

Thanks, Matt Bettis

Jmbettis (talk) 21:53, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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Hammerax up for deletion again
Serial WP:AFD. Question of WP:Notability and WP:Before. Sources need improvement. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 19:36, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
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