Talk:List of fictional birds of prey

"Birds of prey as mascots and logos" section
Huh? How is this fictional? It's not at all clear to me how this is supposed to fit into this entry. Hairhorn (talk) 15:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I am assuming that this subsection was created to hold sports mascots such as Freddie Falcon and the like. As the article stands currently I am in complete agreement that nearly every entry in this subsection should be removed. None of the sports teams listed, for example, are mascots or logos and they certainly aren't birds of prey. Their mascots would qualify, however. -Thibbs (talk) 21:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Merger suggestion
I am suggesting that we merge List of fictional owls into this parent article. There seems to be no reason to differentiate owls from all of the other birds of prey and if we are to retain the split with two lists then this article must be renamed to "List of fictional birds of prey (other)". Thoughts? -Thibbs (talk) 21:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Kes
1969 Ken Loach film features a fictional Kestrel named Kes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.51.31 (talk) 21:57, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Bird-of-prey-like fictional species, bird-of-prey-like robots, bird-of-prey-like aliens, etc.
This article is a list of fictional birds of prey. To be included in this list an item must meet 3 criteria.
 * 1) Bird of prey - The character must be a bird of prey - "birds that hunt for food primarily on the wing, using their keen senses, especially vision. They are defined as birds that primarily hunt vertebrates, including other birds."
 * 2) Fictional character - The character must come from the world of fiction - "any form of narrative which deals, in part or in whole, with events that are not factual, but rather, imaginary and invented by its author(s)".
 * 3) Notable - The character must meet WP:N - The topic must have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
 * A bluelink is usually enough to satisfy requirements #1 and #2, but for redlinks these must be verified through reliable sources.

Since fictional species, robots, aliens, mythical creatures, etc. do not meet criterion #1, we cannot include them in this list even if we as individuals consider them to be in roughly the same general category. This is not an unbounded indiscriminate list, but rather it is a list with clearly defined criteria.

If we wish to expand the scope of this article then we need to do 3 things:
 * A - Gain some semblance of consensus between editors who commonly edit the page.
 * B - Alter the lede to reflect the new inclusion criteria.
 * C - Alter the title of the article to reflect the new (expanded) topic.

-Thibbs (talk) 18:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)