Talk:List of marquesses in the peerages of Britain and Ireland

A bold proposal
Given the discussion here and the general support for moving the article to a more descriptive and accurate title, would anyone object if I moved the article to List of marquesses in the peerages of the British Isles with a redirect from List of marquesses? I'm going to propose this for the other peerage pages, as well. Fishhead64 20:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I think its a great idea - that goes for the peerages by the way. Sotakeit 09:53, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Oston: suspected hoax
I reverted the addition of "McCallion, Marquess of Oston (1798)" because Google gave me nothing for marquess/marquis (of) Oston or McCallion+Oston. —Tamfang (talk) 07:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Use of "British Isles" in lead
The current list of elements to which the article applies mixes geographic units (Ireland and Great Britain) with political units (United Kingdom). It is also unwieldy to list so many entities. I agree with Triton Rocker that this should be rationalised to British Isles. Expansion of the detail follows in the rest of the article. LevenBoy (talk) 18:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Seeing as British Isles is in the article's title, sure. GoodDay (talk) 19:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. "England, Scotland, Great Britain, Ireland, and the United Kingdom" isn't a list of the geographic or political entities to which the article applies; it's a list of five separate and distinct peerages, each of which has marquesses. Saying simply "the British Isles" would, I feel, rob the reader of potentially useful information without conferring any great benefit. Alkari (?), 17 July 2010, 07:04 UTC
 * Agreed. if what you say is correct, and I've no reason to doubt it, then the current list is obviously right. LevenBoy (talk) 19:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

list of sons
should there be two lists in list? The title is not marquesses and their sons etc. If I wanted to know who the heir apparent of a particular Marquess is I will(and do) click on the link for that Marquess' article(either one). After all mostly what is listed here is the courtesy title. It would make more sense to list heirs apparent who use a Marquess as a courtesy title than the current list of broken links. besides it is something where that the information would change and no one would update the lists. Tinynanorobots (talk) 17:23, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Of greater concern to me is the uniform use of "eldest son" in every case...we are listing specific current heirs,not generic placeholders,and when someone is an only son it is pure deception to provide him with imaginary younger brothers.12.144.5.2 (talk) 21:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)