Talk:List of school bus manufacturers

How to Organize Content?
I have 2 questions that I am posing here:

1. As far as the lead-in content goes, how much should there be? I'm thinking of cutting back on some of it (mainly the part about short buses), as things are explained at length already.

2. As far as defunct bus manufacturers, I think it probably is time to further break down that list into recent manufacturers and historical manufacturers (i.e., ones in the distant past). As it is now, the list is just starting to get a bit unwieldy (that's why I gave this content its own space off the main school bus page).

Suggestions?

SteveCof00 (talk) 10:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to separate the "recently defunct" (past 20 years) manufacturers from the "long ago defunct" manufacturers (more than 20 years ago).
 * In regards to the lead of the article, I think it certainly does a good job of explaining things, but we do want to be cautious about not duplicating that which can already be found in the main school bus article. List-type articles should generally be just that -- lists of things.  If this article becomes more than just a list, we might want to think about changing the name to "North American school bus manufacturers" or "School bus manufacturing in North America."  And since Mexico is part of North America, it would be important to include any Mexican school bus manufacturers (I honestly have no idea if there are any; it seems like Mexico usually ends up with second-hand United States-built school buses most of the time, at least based on the photos I've seen). –BMRR (talk) 18:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * In regards to the lead of the article, I think it certainly does a good job of explaining things, but we do want to be cautious about not duplicating that which can already be found in the main school bus article. List-type articles should generally be just that -- lists of things.  If this article becomes more than just a list, we might want to think about changing the name to "North American school bus manufacturers" or "School bus manufacturing in North America."  And since Mexico is part of North America, it would be important to include any Mexican school bus manufacturers (I honestly have no idea if there are any; it seems like Mexico usually ends up with second-hand United States-built school buses most of the time, at least based on the photos I've seen). –BMRR (talk) 18:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Keeping it as a list
As I intend to keep this as a list, I decided to condense the lead-in content a bit more than it was before, mainly because the tables in the lists contain that information and I didn't want to create questions for those unfamiliar. It still needs work, but the list of defunct manufacturers is now split before and after 1980. SteveCof00 (talk) 10:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I think I've got the page off to a good start now; the tables are split apart now and I've cut back on some of the lead in text that is duplicated in the article (the configurations part should stay as it has a great deal of relevance, but I will work making that part smaller. The individual tables are now collapsible (I can't believe I didn't think of that before!), so scrolling shouldn't be as much of an issue.

Of course, now that the format is (mostly) done, the hard part comes when having to work with the actual content of the article. SteveCof00 (talk) 07:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Just wondering: is there a particular reason why the Current Manufacturers are not in alphabetical order? Thanks, BMRR (talk) 23:14, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * This is likely probably an incorrect format as it stands now, but I distinguished the full-line bus manufacturers from those who specialize exclusively in Type A buses. That's why it is organized alphabetically twice.  -SteveCof00 (talk) 04:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, that makes sense. I guess what threw me off is that the defunct/historic manufacturers seem to be listed in alphabetical order.  I don't really have any objection to listing them in "full-line first, then Type A-only" order, but for consistency we should probably do that for the defunct/historic manufacturers as well.  Or just list all of them alphabetically.  Should we consult the great and all-knowing manual of style? ;-) Perhaps another possible change/upgrade might be to add a "products" column to the defunct/historic manufacturers, so that they match the current manufacturers. –BMRR (talk) 16:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

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