Talk:Liv Tyler/Archive 1

Links
As discussed with Yamla, I am re-adding the link to lovelylivtyler.com. Liv doesn't have an official website, and lovelylivtyler is probably as close as it gets. Some examples that it's supported by Liv include a Q&A with her, an interview with her mother, and two thank-you notes.

On another note, the link to NNDB doesn't seem like a good idea to me as it's not a good resource. For example, the birthplace listed there is wrong. I think it should be removed. Shlomi Hillel 17:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Backwards discography?

 * Isn't it supposed to go earliest-to-latest?

No- they do it the way it is. I'm just getting tired of people coming in here and messing with this page. They get it wrong and make it read mean and awful. Calling Liv illegitimate?????? How wrong that is! Aerocrew- May 26, 2007


 * She is illegitimate, though, isn't she? Her parents weren't married!  210.50.56.75 (talk) 02:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Not anymore. She legally carries her father's lastname now. Though she was born out of wedlock. --::semper fidelis:: 17:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleurbutterfly (talk • contribs)

Picture
Is it absolutely necessary to put such a ridiculous picture of her here? I suggest a change, or at least an addition - a second picture. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shade.s3 (talk • contribs) 07:03, January 4, 2006 (UTC)
 * What's ridiculous about it? I think she looks lovely, and it's nice to have an image of actors and actresses out-of-character on their pages.  But if you've got a picture you prefer, feel free to add it. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 18:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but the current picture looks HORRIBLE Drinel 02:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm...
Could Liv be considered multiracial like her father?Just a thought.--Happycat93 01:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)Happycat93
 * Without a source, it cannot be said. Michael 06:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Race, multi-race, irrelevant. It's of some relevance what her specific heritage is, but not ecause it's "multi"-anything-- just because that's where her roots are.

161.98.13.100 17:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Height
Yamla recently put a tag on the mention of Liv's height (5' 10").  A Google search for "Liv Tyler height" provides numerous citations, but the vast majority of them seem to be from various "celeb" sites, and I wasn't sure which were the most reliable.  I chose the "lovelylivtyler.com" site just because that already had a link on this page, so I suppose it's already been vetted (?).  The 5'10" height is also at IMDb, but I know that IMDb can be erroneous sometimes so I wasn't sure if it was the best site to use. It's not that I doubt the 5'10" height, just that I'm not sure which reference is the best to use. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Birth place
Is there still uncertainty about where Liv was born? There is some confusion because she was brought up in Portland, Maine, but in fact, she WAS born in New York city (at Mt. Sinai hospital). Sources? Liv mentions it herself here: http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/info/q_and_a/november_2003/ Also in this interview from 2002: http://www.newyorkmetro.com/shopping/articles/02/fallfashion/alexandermcqueen/index.htm And finally, her mother says so in this article from 1994: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3364/media.htm That's all I could find now - but there is no doubt that she was indeed born in NY and not in Portland.

Mother's ancestry
Does anyone have a good source that her mother is of French descent? (I don't mean the IMBD - something like an interview, etc.) Mad Jack O&#39;Lantern 21:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The source you linked to is a trivia website that copies the IMDB's trivia... sorry to be like that, but it's not really a good source. Something like an interview/article where Tyler was personally involved in is a good source. Mad Jack O&#39;Lantern 21:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sure somewhere her mother has stated something. Look into that. Michael 03:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, she doesn't really mention it in her book. Although I seem to remember she mentioned she came from a Catholic family. I personally kind of doubt she is French - maybe distantly or something - but I just don't know. Mad Jack 06:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, we need someone to look for a definite answer as to Buell's heritage in that case. Michael 07:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, it is your responsibility, Michael, to find the citation if you want this information added. That said, I have Ms. Buell's email address.  I could send her an email and ask whether she considers herself and her daughter French Americans.  I could post her response, hiding the email address.  The problem with this is that I'm not sure it would count as verifiable and may even fall victim to WP:NOR. --Yamla 13:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yamla, actually, I have tried to locate a source on this, and I have been incapable of finding anything on the matter, so I think it's perfectly relevant to ask others to attempt this due to the fact that my efforts have been fruitless. Perhaps someone knows of where such information might be found.  It's important to ask people if they know of such a source if we, ourselves, cannot find one. Michael 22:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Lol, I'd be curious to know if they have any French ancestry at all. Mad Jack 00:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

You must not have read what I wrote correctly... "Lol, I'd be curious to know if they have any French ancestry at all". By "They" I of course meant Ms. Buell and her daughter, not Michael. :) Mad Jack 00:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * LOL, sorry...Indeed, I would not doubt that they probably do based off of the last name and all, but it would be nice to be able to put this, thus necessitating a source. Yamla, if you can, it would be good of you to email her, nonetheless.  If she's not, then we can just let the question die. Michael 02:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I sent an email to Bebe Buell. It's entirely possible she won't answer (she certainly does not owe me an answer) but if she does, I'll post a subpage and note it here. --Yamla 02:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Yamla! Michael 03:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks (but with no exclamation mark) Mad Jack 04:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I am told that Bebe says something about it in her book. At any rate, she is not French, but German. Bebe's mother is from German ancestry while her father is British. Shlomi Hillel 18:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Can you provide more ifnromation on this book or a specific citation so we can add it to the article? Michael 05:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A ha! I just knew the French stuff was more IMDB baloney (what isn't these days?) But yes, let's wait for a citation. Mad Jack 05:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I don't have the book myself (I'm referring to "Rebel Heart" by Bebe Buell), but I was told by a very good source that Bebe's mother is German and her father is British. I for one trust this source completely and moreover, it is "verifyable", only I can't be the verifier... I guess it's the same as the birth place controversy (ask Yamla). I don't mind personally if you're going to say anything at all about her ancestry, but if you're saying something about her Steven's, might as well say something about Bebe too... By the way, Yamla, did you get any reply from Bebe? Shlomi Hillel 17:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Can anyone access the source? Michael 03:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I don't know if it's on the father side or mother side, but I think Liv Tyler is part Norwegian.

You "think"? Do you have a source for this, because it does not appear to be so on either side? Michael 04:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It's the whole "Liv" thing, but yeah, it was probably just a fluke name thing. Mad Jack 07:16, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * What? Michael 07:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Liv is said to be a Norwegian name, therefore people assume that someone in her family ought to be Norwegian. Mad Jack 08:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see...That's really a stretch. Michael 08:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I did not say they were particularly bright people who assumed that. Mad Jack 08:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm surprised they looked up the origins of the name "Liv". Michael 08:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Liv's mother's roots are German (mother's side) and English (father's side). It says so in her bio "Rebel Heart". I think people assume "French" because she has a French name, "Bebe", which means Baby in French. The same as people thinking Liv is Norwegian because she has a Norwegian name. In Bebe's book it tells the story of her reading an article about the Swedish actress Liv Ullman in a TV Guide while she was pregnant and falling in love with the name. She also said if Liv had been a boy they would have named him "Leif". Also, that last trivia add on Liv's page about Evan Dando was excellent and true! User:Aerocrew
 * July 28, 2007

Why exactly would anyone care whether Liv's mother's ancestors were French, German, Chinese, or Hatian? Is she seeking some ancient throne? Trying to figure out which genetic testing is appropriate? Is Hitler in the room? Unless someone can explain and justify this obsession, I would suggest deleting every reference to her ancestry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefactis (talk • contribs) 03:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I deleted that sentence as promised. Somebody named Dudesleeper undid the change, construing what I had done as deleting a whole parragraph without explanation. Care to elaborate?Thefactis (talk) 01:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Picture removed
One of the pictures in this article was removed. See page history here. Carcharoth 17:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Do you have another one? Scorpionman 20:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Good-article candidate
I'm a little amused that the person who has edited the article a few times over the last two days suddenly believes the article is a GAC. Must be one of the shortest articles to be nominated. - Dudesleeper / Talk  09:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you not see it as GA potential? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)