Talk:Lloyd Expressway

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Boeke Rd & Weinbach Ave are Diamond Interchanges. Single Point Urban Interchanges differ from Diamond Interchanges in that SPUI's have one set of traffic signals that control traffic in three phases (left turn for exiting traffic from highway, left turns for thru traffic onto highway and thru traffic on secondary road) and opposing left turn lanes never cross.

Changed University Blvd to reflect actual signage as University Parkway.

Barker Ave is technically a partial cloverleaf, given the westbound traffic for South Barker loops around for right-turn onto Barker via Igleheart. Bradyusi (talk) 05:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Lloyd Expressway termini
What are the termini of this road? Related article Indiana State Road 62 disagrees internally w/its own History section & disagrees w/this article. --Chaswmsday (talk) 21:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

The SR 62 article also claims that the name "Lloyd Expressway" is only used w/i Evansville's city limits. This article seems to disagree on that point as well. --Chaswmsday (talk) 21:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

The Lloyd Expressway is usually referred to as simply the Lloyd because the city does not generally like residents calling it Lloyd Boulevard, which is what it is, an urban boulevard with some expressway features. --Rhatsa26X (talk) 18:04, 01 April 2014 (CDT)

Officially, the Lloyd Expressway is the name designated to the route by the City of Evansville, and therefore the Lloyd Expressway only exist within the city limits of Evansville, meaning the Lloyd Expressway runs from Red Bank Road in the West to the Vanderburgh-Warrick County Line in the East, which are the current city limits along the route. This is supported by the signage along the route. The first intersection from the West to label the route "Lloyd Expwy." is Rosenberger Avenue, which is the first intersection East of Red Bank Rd, which is itself on the line and not within the city. The final intersection to the East that is sighed as "Lloyd Expwy." is the interchange with I-69, which is just inside of the city limits. At Red Bank Road and all intersections to the West, the route is only sighed as IN-62. Likewise, to the East in Warrick County, the route is only signed as IN-66. Conversely, the route is signed as "Lloyd Expwy." at every intersection though the City of Evavsville from Rosenberger Ave. to I-69.

However, the route is usually still referred to colloquially as the Lloyd to West of the city until the University of Southern Indiana and the University Parkway interchange. The route is also sometimes referred to as the Lloyd Expressway through the Newburgh area in Warrick County, mostly along the 6 lane portion between I-69 and IN-261 until the route decreases to 4 lanes and turns South. The name is very rarely used beyond University Parkway or IN-261.

Colloquially, the route is always referred to as "the Lloyd", including by the local news media when reporting on the route, such as construction or traffic incidents. Having lived my entire life in Evansville, I have never heard it called "Lloyd Boulevard". People will occasionally joke about the route being named an "Expressway" due to their misunderstanding of the definition of an expressway, assuming that it means the same thing as a fully access controlled freeway, such as an Interstate Highway. I assume the "Boulevard" nickname (which I have never heard) is a similar misinformed derision. Despite these complaints, there are currently only 9 stop lights along the approximately 10 mile long Lloyd Expressway through Evansville: (1)Red Bank Road, (2)Rosenberger Ave, (3)St. Joseph Ave., (4)Wabash Avenue of Flags, (5)Vann Ave., (6)Stockwell Rd., (7)Fielding Rd, (8)Burkhardt Rd, and (9)Cross Point Blvd. For about 5 miles, between Wabash Avenue of Flags and Vann Ave, their are no at grade intersections and the route could be considered a freeway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indymac5 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Name usage
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Do you live in Evansville, or Southwestern Indiana? I've lived here for nearly 20 years and for as long as I have lived here, The Lloyd Expressway is usually referred to as The Lloyd and is even often called Lloyd Boulevard Rhatsa26X (talk) 11:43 30, March 2014 (CDT)

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 * I don't live there. I just found this road/route to be rather interesting. Per the previous Talk section, I'm not sure it matters what local usage the city does or doesn't like. The city and/or the county and/or the state of Indiana must have official names for it, and I don't doubt your account of local usages which may be different from those official name(s). However, any names mentioned in this article should be backed up by reliably-sourced citations. --Chaswmsday (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

U.S. Route X vs U.S. Highway X
Per use of "U.S. Highway 41":

WP:USSH calls for use of the "official name" for roads in prose, for U.S. Routes, it calls for "U.S. Route X". We are further called on to be mindful of MOS:ENGVAR, i.e. national varieties of English. No accommodation is given for state varieties. Further, there was no reliable source given holding that "U.S. Highway X" is a more common usage in Indiana. And would it matter? I direct you to this discussion. --Chaswmsday (talk) 22:53, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:USSH is a naming convention for the titles of articles; it does not control the content of those articles. See the footnote which explains that we follow DOT usage on the "Route" vs. "Highway" nomenclature in the prose. AASHTO uses both names, making both formats "official".  Imzadi 1979   →   23:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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