Talk:Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal of Japan

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The result was moved. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 03:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

the name was "Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal" just like in Britain after which it was modelled, see Lord Privy Seal.
 * Support Gryffindor  09:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment but the British entry is under "Lord Privy Seal", the common name not the official name of the position. What is the common name of the Japanese position? --Sumple (Talk) 11:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The same. "Lord Privy Seal" or "Lord Keeper (of the) Privy Seal". Gryffindor  13:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
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Merge proposal
This is clearly a duplicated article and should be merged with Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal of Japan. Bueller 007 (talk) 07:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Not clearly duplicative. Not appropriate for merging at this time. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 13:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Removing merge tag -- probably premature for now.--Ooperhoofd (talk) 21:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Just offering additional context for removing merge tag because "[t]he office of the Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal was identical with the old Naidaijin only in name." and

Under the circumstances, perhaps it will be perceived as helpful if this exchange (originally at Talk:Naidaijin) is redundantly copied here at Talk:Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal of Japan? --Ooperhoofd (talk) 20:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Brit speak?
How did this Japanese title develop such a UK specific translation? Does "Naidaijin" actually carry the connotation of being a "Lord"? How can Japan have a "privy" seal when they don't have a privy council? 151.197.217.190 (talk) 12:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

When abolished?
According to the National Diet Library cited in Footnote 2, "The office of the Lord Keeper of the Privy Seal was officially abolished on 24 November 1945." According to the list of officeholders, Kido Kōichi was dismissed from the office on that day and on 25 November, Fujita Hisanori succeeded him. These can't both be correct. I'm guessing there is an inconsistency among the sources, so can someone check which of these is the correct information? It may be that "the office was abolished" is an incorrect translation (though from an official source.) ESentinel (talk) 15:27, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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