Talk:Loy Krathong

I took out the Bangkok festival link because it does not exist now.Rlevse 17:43, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Invented tradition
I'm currently looking for the reference, but Thai historians usually link Loy Krathong to "invented traditions," which is to say: this is not actually something stemming from the Sukhothai era, but was created during the Rattanakhosin period (the modern era).

Aajaan Udom, from Chiang Mai University, has an article similarly linking the Chiang Mai fire balloon to a different ceremony - the "khoom loy" is not, in fact, historically "Thai."

Does someone have these references? I'll look for them myself here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huanohk (talk • contribs) 18:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you can read Thai, the 29 October 2009 issue of Matichon Daily has a piece regarding the issue in the Suvarnabhumi column on page 20. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's titled "ลอยกระทง-นางนพมาศ มีครั้งแรกในรัชกาลที่ 3 กรุงรัตนโกสินทร์ ไม่เคยมีครั้งกรุงสุโขทัย". --Paul_012 (talk) 18:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Paul. Thanks, that's perfect. Although I'd prefer an academic source over a newspaper, but that's great. Huanohk (talk) 17:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

While it appears that there is confusion over the 2013 Loi Krathong celebrations - it does not appear that they are officially canceled: Citynews - Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) has confirmed that major Loy Krathong events in Chiang Mai will NOT be cancelled or postponed. http://www.chiangmaicitynews.com/news.php?id=2566 Oct 28, 2013, Chiang Mai City News — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.71.136 (talk) 18:26, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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Question of the Accuracy of "Etymology" and "History" section
Prevent the vandalism acts!! I believe the editions should be made independently and accurately for Wikipedia article and its readers.

1. Etymology Based on various sources, the word "krathong" is really originated from Khmer word "kantong". Notifying that the word "krathong/kanthong" refers to "container made of leaves" NOT "lamp or lantern (kom)." 2. History The history that claimed Loi Krathong of originating from Sukhothai period is confirmed to has derived from recent legend written in 18th-19th century (Rattanakosin/ Early Bangkok period). And new researches and studies from independent Thai researchers proved that the festival was originated from Khmer Empire as evidenced with bas reliefs carved at Angkorian temples built in 12th century. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew 1115 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

The correct etymology
กระทง (krathong) is a loan word from the Khmer word កន្ទោង /kɑntouŋ/kantong Small container made of banana leaves (used esp. for steaming cakes or as a container for religious offerings such as food, tobacco, or betel). 2601:601:1B80:8040:4F77:9D09:6CAD:B0D6 (talk) 10:01, 19 November 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:1B80:8040:359D:F3B5:A9ED:78A1 (talk)


 * Loy Kantong is originally a Khmer Hindu Brahmin ritual. There are bas relief of Loy kanthong ritual being performed on Angkor Thom - Bayon temple walls.
 * http://www.sealang.net/khmer/search.pl?dict=khmer&hasFocus=orth&approx=&orth=%E1%9E%9B%E1%9E%99+&phone=&def=&anon=on&matchEntry=any&matchLength=word&matchPosition=any&source=&ety=&pos=&usage=&subject=&useTags=1
 * About the SEAlang Library Khmer Dictionary Resources These resources are primarily based on the two very different editions of the Cambodian-English Dictionary: Cambodian-English Dictionary by Robert K. Headley, Kylin Chhor, Lam Kheng Lim, Lim Hak Kheang, and Chen Chun (1977, Catholic University Press), and Cambodian-English Dictionary by Robert K. Headley, Rath Chim, and Ok Soeum (1997, Dunwoody Press, ISBN 0-931745-78-0 )
 * លយ   lɔɔy    v    to float along, drift; to go with the current; to swim; to set adrift, launch, float something.
 * កន្ទោង   kɑntouŋ    n    small container made of banana leaves (used esp. for steaming cakes or as a container for religious offerings such as food, tobacco, or betel).
 * លយកន្ទោង   lɔɔy kɑntooŋ  to make an offering to the spirits by floating small bowls made of leaves and filled with food, etc. out into the river. 2601:601:1B80:8040:A301:CFA6:A5DA:8EB5 (talk) 15:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * លយ   lɔɔy        1    v    to float along, drift; to go with the current; to swim; to set adrift, launch, float something        2a    v    to bulge, protrude.        2b    adj    to be projecting, protruding        3    adj    to be crooked, curved, bent        4    adj    to be a show-off, flaunt one's fine clothes and expensive possessions; to be standoffish    5 relevant subentries:   hide all 4 leading 1 trailing
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 * លយកន្ទោង   lɔɔy kɑntooŋ                            1        to float small boats made of leaves as a religious rite.    កន្ទោង
 * លយកន្ទោង   lɔɔy kɑntooŋ                            1        to float small boats made of leaves as a religious rite.    កន្ទោង


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 * លយប្រទីប   lɔɔy prɑtiip                            1        to float boats decorated with lights (especially during the Water and Light Festival).