Talk:Lucius Volumnius Flamma Violens

DYK note
The information in the following DYK is incorrect, as Lucius Sextius in 366 BC is more often credited as the first plebeian consul, and even he may not have been the first. See CAH. Cynwolfe (talk) 00:24, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Marriage date
Looking over my 2003 copy of Famous Women from The I Tatti Renaisssance Library of Virgiria Brown's translation on page 129 it says about the shrine consecrated to Pudicitia Patricia pertaining to dating (which is a little confussing),
 * During the fifth consulate of Quintus Fabius and the fourth of Publiyus Decius Mus, the Senate decreed that supplication should be made in this shrine, as in other temples, to avert certain divine portents.

It then goes on to explain that Virginia and other women came to the shrine for that purpose. That's when a quarrel broke out. Virginia was removed by the patrician ladies because she was the wife of Lucius Volumnius, a plebeian who had, however, been consul the previous year. To me this puts the marriage date at 295 BC, assuming this event happened shortly after the marriage. What is your take on this?--Doug talk 12:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Clearly, the casting out of Verginia was in 295, but it may be that her attendance in that year was prompted by the Senate's decree and that she hadn't pressed the point in previous years. I don't at the moment have a reliable source for the date of her marriage. Xn4 00:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I see what you are saying on the marriage date. It was Lucius Volumnius who had become consul the previous year of 296 BC. The dating above of ....fifth consulate of Quintus Fabius...... etc, etc.. apparently is a previous ancient date when the Temple was originally built, not pertaining to the third centry BC but some time way before. Thanks for reply.--Doug talk 01:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Verginia and Virginia
In my copy biography LXIII is spelled Virginia, wife of Lucius Volumnius. The first line says,
 * Virginia was a famous Roman matron, but she is different form the Virginia mentioned above. Although the father of this Virginia was also named Aulus, he was a patrician.

Apparently then either spelling would be correct?? You would have more knowledge on this. --Doug talk 14:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Indeed, it's like Vergil and Virgil. Clearly, Virginia is the usual spelling of the name in English, even though the standard spelling in Latin is Verginia.
 * Actually, Boccaccio got the name of Volumnius wrong, calling him 'Lucius Volupinus'. I imagine your translation corrects this but notes that it's done so? Mine (Guarino's) leaves Volupinus in the chapter title but adds a footnote to point out that it's a mistake. Xn4  00:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

On page 129 of Brown's translation the heading reads Virginia, Wife of Lucius Volumnius and in the body it says ...she was the wife of Lucius Volumnius... They spelled it correctly and it doesn't have any notes on the matter. --Doug talk 18:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Lex Licinia
The "Background" section of this article appears to assert that the Lex Licinia in 367 failed to grant one of the Consulships to the Plebeians. I don't believe that's correct. 204.92.65.10 (talk) 22:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)