Talk:Lucky Strike

Possible vandalism
IP address 81.100.182.91 repeatedly adding that Luckies are referred to as "Blue Dragons" and "Red Lightning". I have found no evidence of this and the "contributor" never cites any sources to back up this claim. I have removed the edit twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MetalSlugX (talk • contribs) 04:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Updated packaging picture
Felt that the packaging picture on there needed a bit of an update. Much clearer highly defined picture in its place. --Benmooe (talk) 15:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Lucky Strike Filters
The date for which Lucky Striker Filters where introduced seems erroneous. 1999 was very recent and there are many Lucky Strike Filter commercials from the 60's on youtube and the internet archive. I have not been able to find the exact date. I recommend the line be deleted until the accurate date can be found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MetalSlugX (talk • contribs) 04:07, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Brand name
I´ve heard the brand name supposly is to come from a "Lucky strike", that the brand heritage is from a tobacco strike in the 19th century. Tobacco was sold out for a cheap price after a tobacco strike, but the consumers preferred the taste on this tobacco, and was thereafter stored as under the strike, and sold under the brand Lucky Strike. This is why Lucky Strike is dryer than most cigarettes. Is there any truth in this myth?

A lucky strike is a reference to the gold rush period.


 * I heard it was because they used to put marijuana in the odd one, which would be the lucky strike, but I have no citation for this.--Hm2k (talk) 11:39, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The spliff "lucky strike" is an urban myth. See snopes.com--Onthemat (talk) 12:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

MGS?
not one hundres percent sure, but i think that Solid Snake from the Metal Gear (the first two games before Solid make this clearer than the later ones) series smokes lucky strikes...

You're correct. The original translated version of the game, however, has it misspelled as Lucky Strikers, but I think the newly released version corrects for that. The brand isn't mentioned past Metal Gear 2, but it's pretty safe to assume that it's the same brand.

The cultural references section is trivia, please remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.34.247 (talk) 00:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

green pack
Hi, I am not a native Speaker of English, so I don't really dare to edit the article myself, but: that the copper of the green pack was needed to paint tanks in World War II is not more than an clever marketing idea that became something like an urban legend. But it's not true, as far as I know. Could somebody check this and change the article?


 * You're quite correct. Change made. - DavidWBrooks 15:56, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * See and . --91.16.63.106 (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The explanation of the color change has contradictory, repetitive and out-of-sequence narrative elements and needs condensing and clarifying.--23.119.205.88 (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Goes with Dr Pepper? (POV)
The article says Lucky Strike's flavor "coincidentally goes very well with Dr. Pepper." Aside from the incorrect period in Dr. Pepper, this appears to be an opinion. Taste is a very individual thing. Michael J 14:23, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * i agree. it's as meaningless as "Pepsi-Cola is a soft drink which tastes good" would be in the pepsi article. it would get deleted in a heartbeat, because whether a product tastes good or not is hardly encyclopedic material. i deleted the dr. pepper part for that reason. supine 14:54, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

For the same reason, I took out the reference to 'most beautiful Turkish tobacco'. I don't know if they are made with Turkish tobacco or not, so I left that part in. masema

WWII
Why no mention of their distribution to soldiers during the war. I thought that was what they were most famous for. Rmhermen 23:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. They were even in US Army field rations (C rations) in the 1980s, when the health crisis forced the Army to quit distributing cigarettes to soldiers. Bogomir Kovacs (talk) 14:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

No, it wasn't a health crisis. It was cost cutting measures that caused the removal, along with the political correctness efforts by the DoD. But frankly, the loss of the cigarettes in the C ration was not worthy of notice, as most soldiers smoked FAR more cigarettes than were included in the ration. Of course, I can't give a source, it's original research (or should I say personal experience and first hand knowledge of certain restricted documents). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.128.161 (talk) 03:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Removal of "Cigarette brands" category
I have removed Category:Cigarette brands from this article because Category:R.J. Reynolds brands is a sub-category of the former. It defeats the purpose of having this subcategory if we're going to list the articles in both. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Lucky Strike in Cowboy Bebop.
While it is true that the Lucky Strike logo (or a parody of it) does apear in the show, it is not the only cigarette brand to make such an appearence.

Also, I'd have to check, but don't think that there is any evidence that Faye smokes Lucky Strikes, never mind smoking them exclusively. Like I said, there is more than one brand shown in Cowboy Bebop, and I think in the movie Faye actually takes a cigarette from a "Marlboro" look a like pack.
 * Yeah you're right, at the start of the movie- right after the first scene when the song/B&Wmontage/intro starts, a pack can be seen with the word "strike" obscured in true cowboy bebop fashion. I'll going to edit the page after I get done screen caping it. I've seen them in the show too.     Greg343 10:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Lucky Strike cigarettes may be featured in the original Cowboy Bebop Series. They appeared in quick snap shot in a scene on a table in the film, Cowboy Bebop: The Movie. Rifقᾦ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.98.98 (talk) 01:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

"Gone to war"?
I've deleted one of the references to "Lucky Strike Green has gone to war" -- as it was an explanation for why the pack was changed to white in 1942, it can't have been used in 1917. Also, the statement that this brand "has a unique and distinctive flavor" strikes me as not quite NPOV: I've hedged it a bit with "said to have", but it may need more work.

It was apparently a marketing strategy to attract women smokers. On a different note: I've heard, one cigarette in a pack of Lucky Strike was actually a splife/joint - hence named Lucky Strike. It was specially packed for the army during World War-II?

- Yes I also heard something similar, that one in every 100 hand rolled cigarettes was a joint in WW2 - can anyone confirm? Draconyx (talk) 23:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

The "has a unique and distinctive flavor" was a marketing statement I personally remember from the 60's. No, the "grass" cigarette inclusion is an urban legend. Check snopes. I'll also say clearly that none my my uncles made such mention of their service during WWII and they certainly WOULD have mentioned THAT! As far as one in every 100 hand rolled cigarettes... Well, consider how well cigarette paper would fare in that primitive environment. The consider that cigarettes were provided to the troops. Then consider that the Navy used a LOT of rope. The Army a bit less, but still present. THEN consider that rope was, at that time, made of hemp fiber. Consider further that in wartime haste, rope had a LOT less treatment than it had or currently has. Now, consider the phrase "smoke a rope". Something my uncle, who served in the Navy during WWII told me. MANY current idioms derive from military service during that period, such as the "sh*t end of the stick", "sh*t detail", "sh*t job", derived from the military detail (usually disciplinary) rotating job of burning the accumulated excrement of the unit, typically accumulated in steel drums that were cut 1/3 down and a rudimentary seat was set over. "Called on the carpet" from the Navy, where "officers' country" had carpet where the rest of the ship was steel deck. "Facing the music" regarded the custom of, where the flag is not visible, one faced the direction of the music played during either raising the flag or lowering it for the night. Frankly, THAT subject of military terms and their origin could make their very own wiki. The humbling thing is the thought of the percentage of population that had to server in order to wend its way into our common vernacular. Something that humbles me, even after 27+ years of military service. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.128.161 (talk) 03:57, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Error
I changed the spelling of "cigerettes", to the correct spelling- cigarettes.

Discontinued?
I'm a regular Lucky Strike smoker, and the only place in town where I can purchase Luckies has informed me that there is a rumor that Lucky Strikes are being discontinued. Anybody know if there is any truth to this?--Meestah-k 06:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I've heard that too, although the in my case I was told they were being discontinued in the state of California because of high tar content (wouldn't be surprised since California is generally out to get smokers in any way possible). I have noticed that the store I usually buy them from has been out the last couple of times I went in, but that's not saying much since they were also out of Camel filters.
 * I am a young Lucky Strike smoker, they have them everywhere in Iceland and most places in Europe too I think :) --Ice201 03:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I've been hearing that either they just haven't been selling well enough in the States. Kinda weird since they're supposed to be selling well in Europe. Both the smoke shops in town are either out, or just have a few packs of unfiltereds or lites left. The clerk at one said that they're discontinued, the other had no idea what was going on, just that they didn't have any. --Meestah-k 02:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Straight from RJ Reynolds' website: ''Non support-brands are generally small-share brands, but have very loyal adult smokers who purchase them. Therefore, even though R.J. Reynolds will not provide marketing support for these brands, the company will maintain the brands' distribution where there is consumer demand.'' Luckies are among the brands listed. I guess where we live there is no longer a "consumer demand." That sucks though. Luckies were some of my favorites. HumanZoom 22:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Luckies are my favorite. Strange thing that they have been discontinued in the country where they come from. Nothing is like Lucky Strike. It's toasted. They have always had the best and most persistent advertising and commercials here. My mouse pad is from Lucky Strike. We get the good full rich flavored cigarettes and then you got something, not even Lucky Strike, mixed too much with air, and now all you get is air. 80.77.141.134 00:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't heard of it being discontinued (i am writing from NY) but I have noticed that i cant find un-filtered Luckies in the Ukraine —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Isiah (talk • contribs) 07:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Answer: Luckies are no longer sold in the USA except in duty free, along with all other BAT brands. This is largely due to legal costs incurred by tobacco brands by lawsuit-happy Americans. They are sold widely across the rest of the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.169.154.11 (talk • contribs) 12:35, November 27, 2009 (UTC) january 2014 i am a lucky strike smoker and have been for 28 years i buy them every other day or so and they are defintly still being made and sold in the U.S...no problems at all buying them in massachusetts JANUARY 21st 2014

Cattle cookies! Meadow muffins! I buy my Luckies from my local Wawa store. I also get them from a few different cigarette shops, both here in PA, Delaware and New Jersey. I've also purchased them in the airport in Amsterdam. It's simply a market issue. Where there isn't much of a demand, they aren't sold. I'll not blame the merchant, THEY usually have to purchase at least a case, more often a pallet of the product in order to sell it. If they can't sell it, they lose the money paying for that shipment. In short, they're available. You just have to be in a state that isn't VERY busy "protecting you from yourself" (next week they'd wanna review my and my wife's choice of sexual positions so we don't hurt ourselves (though THEY would say *I* was demeaning her or some other trite )). California is infamous for protecting the populace from everything, save gang violence, gun violence, domestic violence, etc. In spite of their intrusive efforts. Yet ANOTHER reason my family and I will NEVER, EVER go to that benighted state. In short, they're available in 2010. They'll be so in 2011 as well, as long as they sell. It's a combination of market effect and legislative effects that limit your access. Again, in Pennsylvania, I still get MY pack a day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.128.161 (talk) 04:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I live in NY and just recently every convenient store that used to carry them has stopped carrying them. Haven't checked any smoke shops or specialty stores but can anyone confirm the discontinuation for NY. Also maybe a section for the legality of importing the brand from online sites located over seas? Everyone I talk to is unsure if it is legal or not, but there are sites that offer the European version of Lucky Strikes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KnoXEmpire (talk • contribs) 07:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC) I LIVE IN MASSACHUSETTS and get lucky strikes every day they are available  JAN 2014

F1 project
I want to expanded it, I would love some help. Seth slackware 19:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

i live in massachusetts and have smoked lucky strikes for close to thirty years and have no trouble buying them every week they are still made by rj reynolds and are only available in unfiltered in the U.S they are definitly still being made january 2014

Update
I updated the page - reorganized some info. Added that cowboy bebop screenshot again, with new copyright info. Greg343 23:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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Ok Batabot, I think I did what you asked. Now what? Greg343 09:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Bad Luck
I re-worded the paragraph under History which mentioned the rumor that Lucky Strike packages were considered bad luck because they were used by snipers in WWII as targets. However, I couldn't find a source other than a few blog mentions, and the original contributor of the information didn't provide a source, so this paragraph may need to be completely deleted. Clockster (talk) 22:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to say I agree with you, I just deleted it. Greg343 (talk) 04:45, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

So the rumors are not true that during the Vietnam war one of each 100 or so packages contained a marijuana cigarette and hence the name "lucky"?

The rumors are UNTRUE regarding marijuana in the cigarettes in Vietnam. See the snopes article on it. As far as snipers seeking the "target", nope. From THREE uncles serving in WWII in Europe, no dice there. I'll add military experience to support it: WHYINHELL shoot at a cigarette pack in preference to your enemy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.128.161 (talk) 04:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Lucky Strike in the Media
This section included a long, dense paragraph of unrelated examples of Lucky Strike appearing in popular culture. I believe it was a former Trivia section which was just put in paragraph form. I regrouped some of the information into more coherent paragraphs, and deleted some examples, as we don't need to know every single time Lucky Strike shows up on screen or in a song. Clockster (talk) 22:45, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Two anonymous editors have added more examples to the Media section, which I feel is unnecessary. Neither example (books by Poppy Z. Brite and Neil Gaiman) is particularly notable, and both examples were written as unlinked, unsourced single paragraphs that were separate from the examples already in the article. Because of this, I have deleted these two examples. Clockster (talk) 04:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Why is there the constant removal of the Mad Men example? Its notable as the show is quite famous and it does play an integral part of the program's plot being called the largest account Sterling-Cooper has in one episode and it's not excessive considering it's only a three sentence paragraph. So why does it continually get edited out of the section? Heroville (talk) 04:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Because the section got way too big. I removed every unsourced part of the section. Feel free to add to it but please find a source for the information as well.--Atlan (talk) 14:08, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Theres no reason to edit out information, this is in encyclopedia. If you don't want a 'Lucky Strike in the media' section remove it completely. However as long as this section stays organized there is no reason not to include every little appearance the cigarette makes in the media as long as it is sourced or not disputed. Besides who is anyone to say which appearance is more important or more notable than the next one. Instead of removing non-sourced pieces of information put the wikipedia mark that asks for a source. Lets not step backward lets move forward. Isn't there also a thing that can minimize the section? If it gets too big include that feature. The more information the better I say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KnoXEmpire (talk • contribs) 02:29, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

The image of the BAR F1 car does NOT show Lucky Strike branding. Rather, this is an alternative livery to get around bans on tobacco advertising. If you look closely, you will not find "Lucky Strike" anywhere on the car, but you will see "Look Right" and "Look Left" on the different sides of the car. While the livery is meant to be reminiscent of Lucky Strike, it does not directly advertise the brand. This was actually quite common on F1 cars of that time as tobacco advertising bans went into place, with Benson and Hedges turning into "Buzzing Hornets" on the Jordan F1 cars, and more recently you have Ferrari and their infamous barcode livery, as a few examples. SamuraiSquirrel (talk) 05:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Company Transitions
In the first paragraph, it is noted that Luckies is a competitor to R. J. Reynold's Camels, and in the final paragraph is is noted that R. J. Reynolds now markets Luckies. I would like to see a documentation of when Lucky Strike was acquired from American Brands to R. J. Reynolds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.237.4 (talk) 11:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC) I'd scan the side of my cigarette pack, but first I'd have to get permission from RJ Reynolds... Surprise to me too! I suspect it happened when I was overseas. When I left, it was BATC... But, it makes sense. "Be your own competitor"... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.128.161 (talk) 04:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)  I just checked it is batg

Camels?
My dad, who served as asst G3 with the 77th Div in the Pacific during the war, told me Camels were the GI favorite and the first packs taken when distributed. And I'm not surprised, because of Camel's success on the air in the late '30s, sponsoring Benny Goodman, Bob Crosby and a number of comedy shows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.26.8 (talk) 21:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

In popular culture
In the U.S. in the 1950s, one children's 'game' was to stamp on an empty Luckies' pack if one found one on the ground, and then call out 'Lucky Strike' and slug a friend on the upper arm, followed by 'wiping it off' and saying 'no strikes back.' So, is this significant enough to be listed? And can someone find a reference for this folk activity?107.134.78.59 (talk) 15:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

There is also a scene in the film Beverly Hills Cop that references Lucky Strike cigarettes. The movie starts off with Axel Foley in the back of a semi-truck filled with Lucky Strike cigarettes, and he says "I don't smoke Lucky Strike, I smoke king-sized Kents". 2600:1700:B0D2:2110:1C12:FA89:4594:4294 (talk) 00:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Missing periods?
I've noticed a bunch of complete-sentence list items here are missing final periods, and am sorry I haven't time to fussily add all of them on my phone. Okay, I also couldn't pass up the chance to use this Talk-entry title; you've got me. – AndyFielding (talk) 17:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC)