Talk:Lucy Liu/Archive 1

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There is a movie missing.. she was in "3 Needles"

What flagged this nonsense? The tone is perfect. These Wikipedia editors and flaggers are assholes.

Wasn't she in a Hercules: The Legendary Journeys episode. 1st season?

Why is there no citation for the claim that she worked in pajama factory? I read an interview where she denied that stroy recently, and if it is true, shouldn't there be an easy way to cite the quote?

How can she have a science degree in asian languages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainwood (talk • contribs) 07:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Ballistic:Ecks Vs Sever
The author mentioned that the movie had 2 minorities as lead roles but Antonio Banderas is from Spain and hardly a minority. I changed it so it doesn't mention that.


 * despite there being over a billion chinese they are actually a minority lol... what a weird world we live in.
 * Perhaps you are unfamiliar with this use of the term "minority". It means non-white.
 * Meh, don't worry about it. Most Chinese wouldn't think of Lucy Liu as being Chinese in any meaningful sense. She's about as white as you can get without the DNA.

Spanish is "non-white"? Weird.

One of her first films was Gridlock with Tupac Shakur and Tim Roth. That should have been mentioned in the main article, because it was what got her fully recognised as a potentially good actress.


 * I guess you are kidding about minority groups. Chinese are not a minority in China, nor are actors with Spanish surnames in Spain. Caucasians are in the minority in much of the world. The author who mentioned minority leads is likely talking demographics of their audience, which is how I suspect the studios look at it when they cast leads. -- Ryanjo 02:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Usually when people mention "minorities" especially in America, they mean non-white people. I dislike the word "minority" though. It makes us sound like we are inferior. Azn Clayjar 05:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Uh, dude thats kinda the point of the word "minority"(e.x less...?). Thats how people think. One person is always worse than his neighbour in someones eyes.--AeomMai 22:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Picture ****
Can someone put a picture of her? She is so gorgeous! loulou 15:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

The picture wasd removed because of the bad source information. You are welcome to put a picture on if it is under GDFL--AeomMai 22:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure how to check. Here is the link: http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00012/Lucy_Liu_i_Charlie_s_12310c.jpg loulou 16:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Can we have a better picture of her? The one that's hung up is fairly low quality. Puffy1632 00:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

How about using this: (http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00012/Lucy_Liu_i_Charlie_s_12310c.jpg) picture? She's looks nice in it. loulou 02:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The currently used picture is not particularly informative or illustrative. Without a presentation, I'm pretty sure one would be unable to guess her identity.
 * Peter Isotalo 11:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Can we get a better picture? The current one is too blurry. --Candy-Panda 12:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it just looks like it was pulled off a surveillance video. Whoever posted that picture, change it pronto.
 * If you have a better free picture, feel free to add it. ShadowHalo 06:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Let me just put it like Chandler from Friends: "Could the picture be any uglier?" Frankly, since the picture is so ugly, I would prefer to have no picture at all. If someone has a nice picture just put it up otherwise take down that evil monster (hehehe). I think that picture is an insult to the striking beauty of Lucy Liu.

ICE77 -- 81.104.129.226 20:13, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Sweatshop Work
I removed the following information from the Early Life section. Today's (4 December 2006) Boston Metro mentioned something to the effect of "Lucy Liu never worked in a sweatshop, no matter what a certain online encyclopedia says." I tried to verify this information before deleting it, to no avail. Anyone who can verify, feel free to reinsert if you can cite a source. QuixoticKate 21:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * At one time her father peddled watches in Atlantic City while Lucy worked in a pajama factory at age eleven. In an interview with the London Daily Telegraph she said: "It was totally illegal. I actually blocked it out until a few years ago when I said, Oh my God, I was a child sweatshop worker. I didn't want to do it, but what choice did I have". Her family subsisted on boiled rice and cucumber in their cockroach-infested Queens apartment.

Bisexuality
I dislike that we're labeling her as bisexual. As far as I can tell, she has never identified herself as bisexual. Both of the references in the article source the Jane article, and from the quotes that they present she sounds to be an advocate of pansexuality, not bisexuality. If anyone has the entire Jane article to read, maybe they could look that over and try to find more conclusive evident that she is bisexual. It's also important to remember that even if she admits to engaging in sex acts with members of both sexes, she might not identify as bisexual. Mikeliveshere 05:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Pansexuality and bisexuality are the same damn thing. -Branddobbe 09:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * But she doesn't identify in that quote as either bisexual or pansexual. I believe the bisexual cat and statement should be removed. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  06:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Bill Murray incident?
Why isn't there any mention of this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.238.168.110 (talk) 07:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Speaks Chinese
In her bio section it sasys Chinese is her 1st language & that she didnt learn Eng til age 5 ( info from this 7 Dec 06 article). So how come in the personal section it says she barely speaks Chinese? Clear this up. _Lilkunta 00:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I tracked this back to an edit by user Dereth on April 13. I have no idea if it's true or not, but the edit was grammatically incorrect and is original research, so I reverted to the previous version where she is identified as being fluent in Chinese. Asteriske 23:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, there are sources that say she is a fluent Mandarin speaker who didn't learn English until she was 5, and there are sources that say that she speaks some Chinese but like most people born in Queens, New York, English is her first language. Looks like we might have to go with the preponderance of evidence here.


 * Slightly unrelated, but I grew up speaking a foreign language until age 5. After learning English, I've forgotten nearly all of my maternal tongue. It's possible that there is no conflict between these facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.32.102 (talk) 01:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

German edition of O magazine?
The article says: Liu caused a stir when she posed for photos in the April, 2007 German edition of O magazine. What is that magazine called in Germany? Can anyone back this sentence up? I'm German, I've never heard of the magazine and it does not appear in the list of German language magazines in the German Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_deutschsprachiger_Zeitschriften Even if there was an article in some magazine, where and how did Liu "cause a stir"?


 * I think it was GQ magazine (not sure which European country) and I don't recall a "stir" except maybe among fans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.166.238 (talk) 02:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Surname Pronunciaton
The article should make it clear how her surname is to be pronounced. Ostensibly, it should take the pronunciation of 劉 (Liú/ㄌ一ㄡˊ), but this seems at odds with how the majority of news media say it - "Loo."

Additionally, source such as US National Library Service suggest the latter, corrupted pronunciation, further confusion the issue.

Her heritage as a Mandarin-speaking descendant of Taiwan-born parents suggest the former pronunciation, and even if they were basing their pronunciation on a non-Mandarin reading of 劉 (i.e., in 台語,) the possibilities (liû/liô/lâu) are still fairly far from this "Loo" pronunciation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.6.33.201 (talk) 18:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

her parents are not Taiwan born —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.46.156 (talk) 05:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Japanese
The suggestion that she speaks "a little Japanese" seems greatly exaggerated. Her pronunciation in even the extremely rehearsed situation such as her scenes in `Kill Bill' indicate a very poor grasp of the language, most likely less than that of a first year language learner. This is, indeed, "a little" Japanese.


 * Well my definition of "speaks a language" as "being able to converse in the language". Learning Japanese while preparing for her role in Kill Bill does not necessarily qualify as "speaks Japanese" unless she continues to practice Japanese, or else Uma Thurman can also be said as "speaks Japanese". --K kc chan (talk) 07:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Guy
Could somebody move this particular movie data so it lines up with everything else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.225.184.29 (talk) 05:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Death?
adding for death on dec 21 2008, as I can't find any news articles to corroborate this. Anyone with info?

Reverting suggested as there is no news of this occurring. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.198.228 (talk) 04:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Vietnamese?
Why is there a Vietnamese version of her name in the opening of the article? There's no indication that she ever lived in Vietnam or has any Vietnamese ancestry. --Jfruh (talk) 18:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Chinese spelling of her name
Is there anyone who can confirm these versions? Erzsébet Báthory(talk 13:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems to be widely used as her name in Chinese and Japanese fansites, at least. http://usinfo.americancorner.org.tw/st/arts-chinese/2008/June/20090109113338SrenoD0.2784998.html looks a bit more official.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:17, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Futurama Guest Apperances
Two episodes

"I Dated A Robot" as herself and the Lucy Liu Bots (2001)

"Love and Rocket" as herself (2002) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.206.254 (talk) 22:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Entries marked as "voice"
All of the entries marked as "voice" should probably grouped into a section called "Dubbing" or something like that. Those entries sort of break away from regular acting.

ICE77 (talk) 05:47, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Why? Voice acting is just another facet of acting roles. We don't break out voice roles into separate tables, they are all legitimate roles and are treated just like any other role. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:55, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Acting and dubbing are two different things. Acting is your face and your voice. Dubbing is only your voice. They are not the same. The two things should be in separate categories or maybe "filmography" followed but a subsection of filmography called "dubbing".

ICE77 (talk) 19:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Bzzzt. No. Voice acting roles requires acting, dubbing is something else entirely. Have you never watched a documentary or "making of" to see that? There is no support for breaking these 6 instances into a separate table. It is not done. Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure, acting and dubbing are different things. That is why voice acting is acting, and is not the same as dubbing.Colin McLarty (talk) 20:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Parents country of origin
Is it known exactly where Liu's parents immigrated from? Me and everyone I knew thought it was Mainland China, but then I remember seeing a version of this page claiming it to be Taiwan. Google doesn't help, but I know it's got to be one of the two thanks to the surname (see List of Chinese surnames). Does anyone know? ★ Dasani ★ 23:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * All the sources says they are Chinese, but the article right now says Taiwanese. Unless someone objects or has a reliable source that claims otherwise, I am going to change it back. Erzsébet Báthory(talk 14:09, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It still says Taiwanese. Is that right? AyanP (talk) 03:54, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Ayan
 * I think she said they were from Beijing and Shanghai in her interview with Craig Ferguson a while back. (Interestingly, he thought it was Taiwan... maybe he gets his info from wiki lol) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.41.223 (talk) 19:34, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

There is an interview with her on the Craig Ferguson show which you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UipjSd6BIKY&feature=g-vrec (not an official link to the show, but the video is undeniable.) where she says that her parents are from Beijing and Shanghai, not Taiwan. 86.19.203.76 (talk) 00:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Filmography
The filmography of this article does not seem to match the filmography from the IMDb website. Some of the entries are not in the same chronological order (2008 is an example).

ICE77 (talk) 06:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * In her filmography section, under "Chicago", those citations for BEST CAST performances really should be removed...these are marginal (to say the least) achievements, and doesn't specifically concern Liu, who appeared in the film for about a minute (guestimating), or less. Including these "achievments" is really primping up her resume, and should not be included here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.225.193 (talk) 14:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

External links modified
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Nationality in infobox and lead
I noticed that her nationality/introduction is continually edited as "Chinese American" or "Chinese/American." Lucy Liu was born and raised in the United States. Although her parents were from China, I do not believe she has dual citizenship (last time I checked, China doesn't support that anyway). Unless someone can provide a reference that she has dual citizenship, then this should read "American." As it is, the article emphasizes her Chinese ancestry. But she is an American-born actress. EHC0413 (talk) 04:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Is America just one country now?
Canada, the United states and Mexico are all countries in America. It occurs to me that the United States can't be changed into a nationality, like Canada becomes Canadian and Mexico becomes Mexican. You can't say United Statian. I think it's about time that the United States traded it's descriptive title for a friendly name. 70.67.5.217 (talk) 00:37, 28 January 2016 (UTC)