Talk:Luzon

Name
The name of the Philippine main island came from the Japanese word "Luzon". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtmitchell (talk • contribs)
 * Junk that sentence. Luzon in Japanese is Ruson. --Chris S. 23:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I was startled to see this diff pop up on my watchlist. I apparently did add that and forget to sign it. The edit summary said "Needs a cite". It's since been removed but, having seen it pop up, I dug around and found, which says that the name comes from the Tagalog word lusong, referring to a wooden mortar used to pound rice, that the Chinese used to call the island Liusung, that when the Europeans put it on the map the name became Luconia, and that the hard c got changed to a z at some point to approximate the original Tagalog word. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

It is also a Kapampangan term, and there are many instances where some tagalog words are infact from the Kapampangan language, and vice versa.--70.134.77.134 (talk) 09:37, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

See History of Luzon. Arius1998 (talk) 05:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

The name "Luzon" is a Spanish surname. It seems possible that if the early Portuguese explorers mapped it as "Luçonia" or "Luçon", then the Spanish changed the letter "c" to "z" giving it its present name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.74.197 (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

The malay name of Luzon is Selurong.Kasumi-genx (talk)

other possible etymologies
Lusones- named by Spaniards after an ancient northern tribe.--Jondel 07:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The above mentioned assumption by the user Jondel is very improbable.Due to the fact, that the Spanish named the island " Nueva Castilla" 15:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

New updates: Luzon may have been known to the Portuguese as the ' first European explorers recorded it in their charts as Luçonia or Luçon '. It is known in history books but the maps were mostprobably made by them.--Jondel (talk) 00:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The name "Luzon" is a Spanish surname. It seems possible that if the early Portuguese explorers mapped it as "Luçonia" or "Luçon", then the Spanish changed the letter "c" to "z" giving it its present name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.74.197 (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

The Chronicles of the Ming Dynasty talk about a kingdom in Luzon (吕宋国) paying levis to the Chinese Emperor.--Arnis birada (Source: http://www.lib.kobe-u.ac.jp/directory/sumita/5A-161/index.html ) 15:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC) This goes together with the precolonial Portuguese name "Luçonia". 15:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I've just added another source citation supporting its current assertion re the etymology to the article: Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 04:58, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I also found: "Luzon stemmed from the Tagalog word Kalusunan which means the northern most part. True to its name, the island group of Luzon is in the northern most part of the archipelago; it comprises of Luzon Island itself, the islands of Batanes, Babuyan, Romblon, Masbate, Catanduanes, Marinduque, Mindoro, and Palawan. - See more at: http://ffemagazine.com/philippine-geography-description-of-luzon-visayas-and-mindanao/#sthash.4FcVPPM8.dpuf " Jidanni (talk) 23:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC) although FFemagzine publish an article about kalusunan, but the word itself "kalusunan" does not exist within the Filipino Language, if it came from lusong, this would mean "to move forward". and Filipinos never call Luzon as Kalusunan, it will always be Luzon, because the whole island of Luzon was inhabited by different speaking individuals, including katagalugan, kapampangan, kabikulan, and ilocandia which prevent the ancient civilization to name the whole single island at all. it will always be Luzon and not Kalusunan
 * However Google Maps went overboard I think: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?#!topic/map-maker/1RokwAbYTfg Jidanni (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Tribe
"Aeta" and "Agta" are two spellings of the same name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MD1937 (talk • contribs) 02:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Request: Map with main cities
It would be nice be have a map showing the main cities of the island. Thanks! Nicolas1981 (talk) 02:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Regions
I just edited the Administrative divisions section, hoping to improve the wording there. That raised some questions about its content.


 * Why is MIMAROPA included here? It certainly does not lie on the island of Luzon. If it belongs here, the reason for that should be clarified. If it doesn't belong here, it should be removed.
 * Why are several bits of CALABARZON (and MIMAROPA, if that stays in the article) colored anomalously on the map? If the anomalous colorings are correct, they should be explained. If not, they should be corrected.
 * The map shows that the Bicol Region includes bits of geography which are not on the island of Luzon, but that is not mentioned in the article text. The article text should mention that. (I haven't edited that in because it probably goes along with the resolution of the other issues mentioned above). Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:53, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I think MIMAROPA is included because it includes Mindoro, which is part of the political area of Luzon (as opposed to Visayas or Mindanao), although this should be clarified in the text.
 * I think the anomalous colourings are mean to be lakes. The ones in CALABARAON are definitely Laguna de Bay and Taal. Best to colour them white.
 * Most issues here I think stem from the confusion between Luzon the island and Luzon the political unit, both of which are covered in this article. Best solution would be to clarify in the text what each statement is referring to. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 04:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Chinese governor of Luzon during the Ming dynasty
I recently demonstrated that the "Chinese governor of Luzon" is a myth originating from mistakes made by Western historians more than a century ago. The myth has been widely repeated in English-language secondary sources (including the many cited below) and has lately also been embraced and embellished in China, but this should not detract from the fact that it has no basis whatsoever in premodern Chinese sources. Please see my essay "Ko Ch'a-lao/Xu Chailao: A Mythical Ming Chinese Governor of Luzon" - Shao-yun Yang 2605:A000:1117:E2EB:6DC0:EE84:32EE:B8 (talk) 01:06, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

The Yongle Emperor instituted a Chinese Governor on Luzon during Zheng He's voyages and appointed Ko Ch'a-lao to that position in 1405.



The Chinese Ming Yongle Emperor appointed a governor over Luzon.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=6OwbAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA400&lpg=PA400&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&source=bl&ots=pn2TtAVUkL&sig=uMKrSu0xBuC8G2DqI3_rb2zIJ3o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cL53ULGEM8rD0AHZ6YHABA&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCTge#v=onepage&q=Yung%20lo%20governor%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=N5ln75cNFjwC&pg=PT245&lpg=PT245&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&source=bl&ots=XsfKVJ4_Xf&sig=X_TaeOj-Z2jsYyImL2fJzWn_DcQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vLh3UKf8FfOv0AH6u4DwDQ&ved=0CFYQ6AEwCDgK



http://books.google.com/books?id=GkBrAAAAMAAJ&q=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&source=bl&ots=95yqpUCn2X&sig=PajxUpDDZrSoWbcx5D5K0LhXDXM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cL53ULGEM8rD0AHZ6YHABA&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBjge



http://books.google.com/books?id=OicwAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&source=bl&ots=4PTShGmSEo&sig=zPgXPgANggXzgZ59OWHbiYkIWDY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cL53ULGEM8rD0AHZ6YHABA&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBzge



http://books.google.com/books?id=fLstAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA1605&lpg=PA1605&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&source=bl&ots=6_She5kX70&sig=h07ePLwPWUvrU967t7a_PBH4rYY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TMF3UKjZD4qn0AGwjICQDQ&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBzha#v=onepage&q=Yung%20lo%20governor%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=WH8KAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&source=bl&ots=ZrDch8jkwm&sig=MXgKLMtOyjUbuCyT5zO9pd_8MmU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TMF3UKjZD4qn0AGwjICQDQ&ved=0CF0Q6AEwCDha#v=onepage&q=Yung%20lo%20governor%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=brQTAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA414&lpg=PA414&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&source=bl&ots=0ddigbZX1g&sig=HJRx61OwcfOu7_Xn_e2kRlRQ__I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TMF3UKjZD4qn0AGwjICQDQ&ved=0CGMQ6AEwCTha#v=onepage&q=Yung%20lo%20governor%20luzon&f=false

miscellaneous


http://books.google.com/books?id=GydHYs7g6pYC&pg=PA196&lpg=PA196&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=EX3XGvj1nf&sig=0sPWZFsKUebCDiml5UU7WDONuMs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=HVEPqpiDKJQC&pg=PA196&lpg=PA196&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=ulvP2Kam-N&sig=weMsBHEFLy83eaOcCs0lAAwIny8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=IY8eAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=YY9g1MC9Gk&sig=mlSZsGJ4Vmq0s4ShmWD-nJurerE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=ndSG3Gd6bkEC&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=ifgK9kiBIP&sig=P2LVh2LU5fSiElDZU0g3VjmOW9Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=boYxJvjeEAcC&pg=PR68&lpg=PR68&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=1oAMFyhV2M&sig=0-MNkV-0Bu8CNCBgz5Srk5Uas6A&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=i1sKZ3A8YrYC&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=DEzwigD137&sig=ig3Gdihli1-NQABpcy7fOoMU8t8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=JK4yAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA717&lpg=PA717&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=uA3cC0absm&sig=qdSgIkLozmtuwXPPT1BFEFEwR4s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBg



http://books.google.com/books?id=ZUfNRG8IR44C&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=MmAD3TlWiZ&sig=CDA0WOIDXP4dBUn_YyYR9kSTCV0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=A04Y6rYnlikC&pg=PA170&lpg=PA170&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=96Ne5lHg-L&sig=sNOkbSYsamcCfB3j1Xe5VRkY0uk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CGMQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=w68uObIhx9MC&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=Yongle+province+luzon&source=bl&ots=pppPChisLT&sig=Er5T8EV92uzyDos_ABWl20HFhKI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6K53UNsvqbfQAanPgZAD&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Yongle%20province%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=QKgraWbb7yoC&pg=PA897&lpg=PA897&dq=Yongle+province+luzon&source=bl&ots=3WtRFa3cXT&sig=m1ofI7-6M1t_Y92a2HSBPfkEXnI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6K53UNsvqbfQAanPgZAD&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Yongle%20province%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=fj1mAAAAMAAJ&q=Yongle+province+luzon&dq=Yongle+province+luzon&source=bl&ots=Aj8XYcIMY6&sig=IOLZDQDvp4AtNgqNv2sl3R5dgYk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6K53UNsvqbfQAanPgZAD&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBg



http://books.google.com/books?id=YFIGVqZ9ZKsC&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=Yongle+luzon&source=bl&ots=gPtq_V4umC&sig=EIgq4QnJvn2zST2kYjubmy-_Z8U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j653UOCNFOfO0QGqyoGYCg&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Yongle%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=GSA_AaRdgioC&pg=PA144&lpg=PA144&dq=Yongle+luzon&source=bl&ots=FSfA-jXHd3&sig=xrF60CkXAGE3UeO6HfQPoDRKl2I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j653UOCNFOfO0QGqyoGYCg&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Yongle%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=vxgHExnla4MC&pg=PA206&lpg=PA206&dq=Yongle+luzon&source=bl&ots=-FqtFQaLDQ&sig=86e037rTlGHz4d0UXUE1GfFYRNY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j653UOCNFOfO0QGqyoGYCg&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Yongle%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=uHWIKuAYbK8C&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&dq=Yongle+luzon&source=bl&ots=_6TWlUaZ-z&sig=T1nQRXTAsfC9LDSdoK8fmR-hw80&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j653UOCNFOfO0QGqyoGYCg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Yongle%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=nyYslywJUE8C&pg=PA238&lpg=PA238&dq=Yongle+luzon&source=bl&ots=JXh1bU63Vp&sig=RUmw_1-_WkMtNLTFspVQkHbtfaA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j653UOCNFOfO0QGqyoGYCg&ved=0CE4Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Yongle%20luzon&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=GxrrAAAAMAAJ&q=Yongle+luzon&dq=Yongle+luzon&source=bl&ots=dwAedqp9Pt&sig=c53hQxcsRzvj0Ot3umXUGs2CnAk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j653UOCNFOfO0QGqyoGYCg&ved=0CF8Q6AEwCA



http://books.google.com/books?id=Y1krAAAAMAAJ&q=Yongle+luzon&dq=Yongle+luzon&source=bl&ots=tGuI5LzsEp&sig=SOzgOVMToal7E-ZrKNE3-Muy0sE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j653UOCNFOfO0QGqyoGYCg&ved=0CGQQ6AEwCQ

other
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ih4rqkrcp70C&pg=PA297&lpg=PA297&dq=governor+chinese+luzon+mindanao&source=bl&ots=ySrQ3_nUEc&sig=ap-G0j1fUuzRpPZX23dLV2ZbnBI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rbl3UMGDAeSL0QGn-IC4Cg&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=PUtTAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA148&lpg=PA148&dq=governor+chinese+luzon+mindanao&source=bl&ots=VtJ78RYkWK&sig=nkoVZMi27pwvp4btUqQ9J4yi5G4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rbl3UMGDAeSL0QGn-IC4Cg&ved=0CFUQ6AEwBg



http://books.google.com/books?id=7XiMf0xc_WQC&pg=PA751&lpg=PA751&dq=governor+chinese+luzon+mindanao&source=bl&ots=wXsBdymd89&sig=ISYlphWXQV2yiS3VDFKZ_yfo5hI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rbl3UMGDAeSL0QGn-IC4Cg&ved=0CEUQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon%20mindanao&f=false



http://books.google.com/books?id=2Z-n_kDTxf0C&pg=PT41&lpg=PT41&dq=governor+chinese+luzon+mindanao&source=bl&ots=NE1bXe_4r-&sig=yKN7IfZb3jW1SVVzXyBrMq9cxhM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rbl3UMGDAeSL0QGn-IC4Cg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ

Rajmaan (talk) 18:08, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Kasumi-genx (talk) The Problem is Luzon is a misnomer, it might be only a part of it. Kasumi-genx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

External links modified
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Google maps has renamed this island "Kalusunan"
Google maps has renamed this island "Kalusunan", So it would be only proper to retitle and redirect this article.
 * https://www.google.com/maps/@16,121,4z
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=luzon See it there on the right?

Or is Google crazy?! Jidanni (talk) 22:21, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

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Inconsistencies between this article and Battle of Manila (1405)
There appears to be some factual disagreement between this article and an article I recently came across in the new page queue, Battle of Manila (1405). I'd appreciate it if someone with more knowledge of Philippine history than me could take a look. I'm not watching this page, ping me if you want me to respond signed,Rosguill talk 19:02, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Luzon
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Luzon's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Potet2013": From Rajahnate of Maynila:  From Tondo (historical polity):  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:21, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 20:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Quezon Memorial Circle monument tower (Diliman, Quezon City)(2018-02-07).jpg

Sama-Bajau in Palawan
If you add the Sama-Bajau as an ethnic group of Luzon (in the island group sense), you will also have to add the Cuyonon, Tagbanwa, Palawano, Batak, Tau't Batu, and Tausug on Palawan, and all Mangyan groups on Mindoro. Is this really within the scope of this article? Philippine ethnographers and linguists rarely treat Palawan and Mindoro as 'satellites' of Luzon. –Austronesier (talk) 16:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok that's inconsistent, I just put it there since the map also colored Palawan as a part of Luzon, if however, the scholarly consensus is that, Palawan is not a part of Luzon, you are welcome to erase my edits bro! Regards! :D --Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (talk)
 * Yes, the idea of a "wider" Luzon area is mostly a political thing, due to the shifted demographics that has seen people from Luzon moving into Palawan in the last decades. –Austronesier (talk) 12:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Filipino
Magsaliksik SA mga tradition at kultura Ng mga Luzon? Script 103.171.89.86 (talk) 12:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Map overzoomed
Map at top should show whole island. Jidanni (talk) 08:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It does show the entire island on my computer. Very little margins outside of the island, but it has every beachhead on the island.  Maybe your phone/computer is zooming in?  Dennis Brown 2&cent; 09:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)